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Fake Disputes on declaration of Geeta as National book. Is it sustainable? (Part – 1)

GEETA

Why India should not have a National book?

If India has, National Bird, National symbol, National animal and also National flag, then there is no reason to prevent the government from selecting and declaring a national book.

Yes. We cannot prevent the Government.

Now suppose, the Government declares a book as the national book to which one group does not agree then what should the government do!!

WHAT SHOULD BE THE PROCESS?

Discussion is the process recognized in democracy.

What matter can be discussed in democracy?

If two parties, do not agree to a matter, then the disputes should be decided.

Here the two parties are: One Party is the Government. The other part is the group made of who does not like to declare Bhagvad Geeta as the National Book.

What are the disputes between two parts?

The other part appears to be not interested in logical discussion. But suppose it wants a logical discussion then it can raised following points:

(1) The other part says that Geeta is a religious book.

(2) In democracy all the religions are equal before the Government.

(3) Declaring a book belonged to a religion would give a message that government has declared a religion superior to other religion by way of recognizing its book as the National Book.

(4) For a democratic government, all the religions are equal, thereby government should not hurt the feeling of other’s faith.

The pro-declaration part and the Government says Geeta is a well-recognized and accepted book for improvement of mind-set. Dealing with a mind is a subject of philosophy provided it is with logical technics.

What comes in a way is the word “Religion”.

What is the definition of a religion?

Is it the definition of a religion as under?:

(1) Faith in a specified God by a book recognized by a promoter of that faith?

(2) Faith in the so-made authentication of the Event and Events and eventual characters made by the promoter of that faith?

(3) Faith in the rituals, line of actions, interactions, rules of law etc… directed by the promoter of that faith in the book/s?

(4) Faith in any such thing related with that book/s by the promoter of the faith as mandatory?

JUDAISM –CHRISTIANITY-ISLAM

Judaism is a religion. It has a book Torah. The God Jehovah had directed human kind to follow the guide lines given in Torah.

Christians says no. The Torat is not OK totally. God had sent his Son to provide better guide line to mankind. It is the bible which is OK.

Muslims say no. Neither The Torat and nor the Bible is OK in toto. Because there are lots of interpolations and versions. Nothing is authentic and thereby they are not acceptable. God cannot have sons and daughters etc… God had sent a prophet. Directives had been given to that prophet through an angel. Koran Contains those directives in pure form. That is why Koran is the final and ultimate.

What is about Hindu?

As for the meaning of the word “Religion”, the meaning cannot be applies to the Hinduism. Our concepts are different. We have not that type of religion. Ours is the Dharma that is knowledge, selection of duties and liberty to select the ways to have pleasure of individuals and the society. We call this combination as “Sanatan Dharma”. The main principle us “Truth, Non-violence and happiness to all”.

The directives as defined/described as mandatory in the specified book/s, of the specified religion, are being applied in non-Hindu religions to be a part of that religion,

As for “Santana” no such provisions or reasons or directives are applicable. It is not falling under the definition and directives prescribed for traditionally called Jew, Christian, Muslims and other religion with similar binding characteristic.

Recall the supremacy of the Church on Science.

Nothing should recognized that goes against the events and characters narrated, that contradicts what is mentioned in the Bible. Galileo was punished for that. Later it was decided that religion and science are separate subjects. Religion is based on faith. Science is based on logic. A religious group cannot permit deviation from the beliefs as directed in a book. But as for the science, the deviation from the beliefs will be permitted.

Newton had written on Mass, Space and Time in “Philosophy of Nature”. Einstein and others contradicted in course of time. Einstein wrote on Mass, Space and Time in “The Universe”. There was no problem. While dealing with ordinary machines we follow Newton. While dealing with very high speed machines we follow Einstein.

“SANTANA” IS LIKE SCIENCE

Sanatana does not cover physical Universe only. It covers Universe, Mind, Soul and to some extent social behavior too. It is more or less applied technics to step up mind of individuals and the society/societies. Everything is related with the mind only.

Since by the definition, “Santana” differs, the word “Religion” cannot be applied to “Santana”. “Sanatana” is a way of life to have pleasure, harmony and peace in the society and to step up the individuals and the societies.

“Sanatana” is a philosophy of mankind as to how to deal with our mind to step it up and how to look at the universe.

Plato was a philosopher. He wrote a book “Theory of Forms”. This was a philosophical approach.

Now suppose the government of Greece declares this book as the National Book, would the Christians oppose this?

No. Because Plato was not a head of any religion. Now suppose a group immerged and said we have a Plato-Religion. It is a different matter that wether we may follow his principles or not. Don’t ask us about it. But we and declare that we have faith in Plato’s book. We have formed a herd named PLATO. Plato was son of God or a prophet sent by the God, or whatsoever we may call him or not, we and you should not mind. But we belong to Platonisms. That is all.

Would it be proper to derecognize the Plato’s book “Theory of Forms” from the category of Philosophy?

SIMILAR IS THE CASE WITH KRISHNA.

Krishna was knowledgeable, thinker, yogi and philosopher. He narrated Geeta. Incidentally he narrated Geeta before Arjuna, before the war Maha Bharata started. This lecture on philosophy on how to deal with the mind was given by Krishna. It is a different matter whether it was an interpolation or not. But one cannot negate its category.

What is the fault of “Geeta” if the discoverer and orator Krishna, is termed as an incarnation of Sun (Vishnu)? Even today there are more than 1000 persons recognized as God. Will you de-recognize their rights of citizenship?

No. You will not. Because they are human being too. similar is the case with Krishna and his Geeta.

Geeta is a book on philosophy. One cannot de-recognized it from its category.

Let us look at the origin of Geeta.

VEDAS HAS UNIVERSAL PHILOSOPHY.

What is eternal?

Who is eternal?

How was the universe created?

What are the ways to acquire the pleasure?

How to step up mind?

How is the cosmos?

The language of Vedas is in old Sanskrit. The text of Vedas have multiple meanings. They have literal meaning, indirect meaning and hidden meaning. Those who have any doubt on this point, they may read Aurobindo Ghose on Vedas.

There are Upanishadas. All these are difficult for common mass to understand. It is just like to study in college after completing qualifying final year of school.

WHAT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT GEETA?

Upanishadas are Cows (philosophy of survival). Krishna milked them. He prepared curd and butter milk and then stirred it. The butter got floated on the surface. Krishna took it out and he presented it before Arjun (Bharata).

Is there anything wrong with Geeta so far as philosophy is concern?

No. There is nothing wrong, nothing misguiding, nothing discriminating mankind or harming mankind.

Yes. There are some people who have misinterpreted Geeta willfully to satisfy their ego and selfish means associated with their hypocrisy and vote bank politics.

Let us see some of the misconceptions.

(Continued … )

Shirish Mohanlal Dave

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ONE AND ONLY FUNDAMENTAL ENTITY WITH ONE AND ONLY ONE FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY

ONE AND ONLY FUNDAMENTAL ENTITY WITH ONE AND ONLY ONE FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY

NOT EVEN TWO. ONE AND ONE ONLY

As per Hindu Philosophy of “Adwait” formulated by Vedas and explained by Shankaracharya “Every thing is living thing”. There is nothing like non-living.

“He she it” the Soul is smallest of small, and “he she it” the God is largest, biggest and greatest of all, is the Cosmos. “He she it” the Fire (Rudra) came out of SAT (स‌‌‌त्)‌ alias Brahma (ब्रह्म ) in the form of Cosmos, some 15 billion years back. “He she it” is the living entity.

MICRO AND MACRO

We the Humans and all other so-called living are made of cells. All are living entities. The Cells are formed, sustained and died and get disintegrated. They are replaced by similar ones and “We are sustained as an unique and we remain as an alive being”.

In due course we too die and get disintegrated. But Cosmos remains as the one that one is unique. “He she it” the God alias Brahma alias the SAT (Shiva) remains unchanged but no body knows what it is.

The SAT has produced Cosmos from within. The Cosmos the God has been termed as Vishva Murthi (विश्वमूर्ति). This is a name of Rudra-Shiva, the lord-God Shiva.

He is devils, he is deva-s, he is each and he is all. He is the subject as “eater”, he is the object as “food” and he is the verb as “to eat”. This is the same for every subject, object and verb. He is the power, he is the field of strength and he is the force. He is the matter, he is the property and he is the space and he is beyond all these and beyond sensation of our body. 

I AM THE TRINITY

I AM THE TRINITY

BORN, SAUSTAINED AND VANISHED (PRODUCES, SUSTAINS & VANISHES)

You, all others and I have come, will live and will get vanished. But we are as souls are not different. We feel, we are separate. But that is because, our body separates us from others.

It is like this. Space is the same, one and only one, but we find different space in a Jar covered with a lid. When we open the lid, the space becomes one, that is, it looks unified and merged with the space out side or so to say space of Cosmos.

The ignorance is the lid. The knowledge of Cosmos opens up the lid. Then we realize that we all are one and one only as a part and parcel of Vishva-Murthi (विश्वमूर्ति).

Therefore to have bitterness against anybody, spoils our mind and that becomes a sin. This bitterness is due to ignorance.  

NO BODY KNOWS WHAT IS SALVATION

As many have understood the aim of our life, is to attain ultimate, eternal and absolute pleasure i.e. Salvation (ब्रह्मानन्द or मोक्ष).

There are some ways to achieve salvation.

Our religion and Hindu philosophy says, the Salvation is the status of eternal absolute pleasure.

To attain Salvation or to unify our self with God, there are four ways:

DEPENDING UPON YOUR NATURE, HAVE YOUR CHOICE: WORSHIP TO ANY ONE, GOES TO ME, LIKE WATER GOES TO OCEAN

DEPENDING UPON YOUR NATURE, HAVE YOUR CHOICE: WORSHIP TO ANY ONE, GOES TO ME, LIKE WATER GOES TO OCEAN

By devotion (भक्ति-योग),

By work as duty with sincerity (कर्म-योग)

By Yoga (राज योग)

By knowledge (જ્ઞાન  योग ) related with God (परमात्मा), Soul(आत्मा) and Cosmos (ब्रह्माण्ड) universe (जगत).

PLEASURE THROUGH KNOWLEDGE

It is the only human being which makes efforts to understand the universe:

As per Shankaracharya to attain pleasure through Knowledge is supreme.

UNIFIED THEORIES OF FIELD AND ENTITY

There is a proposed hypothesis on “Unified Field Theory” of Einstein, which can explain and combine all the fields (Electromagnetic, inter-nuclear strong field, nuclear radiation, Gravitational field) into one single field formula.

No body was successful in formulating the unified field theory till the end of last century. But very recently scientists have re-discovered and worked on what had been proposed by Ramanujam an Indian mathematician in early decades of last century about a Matrix formula of 22+4 dimensions.

As to what physicists understand to localize a spot in the universe we need four co-ordinates viz. X axis, Y-axis, Z-axis and a T (Time)-Axis.

But this is not universal. This is not for every object. Subatomic entities live in many other dimensions too. There are other 22 dimensions which are perpendicular to each other like X, Y and Z. We are not physically aware of them, as for us their values are very small. Further due to our mental limitation, status and physical tools (measuring /understanding instruments /equipments) we are unable to feel them experimentally. We can present the other dimensions mathematically only.

 ATOMIC MODEL THEN STANDARD MODEL OF QUARKS AND GLUONS:

Earlier there was “multiple-particle theory” on fundamental particles VIZ Atoms. But experiments carried by physicists went on discovering more and more fundamental particles. There was no end to the discovery of new fundamental particles. This was turned into to be much more than the number of new science graduates per year. Then the physicists formulated standard model of quarks, gluons, leptons . This resolved the problems of fundamental particles. But this could not formulate unification of all the four forces.

Scientists concentrated on single fundamental entity of which the Cosmos is made of. Say supper particle or super-string which spins or vibrates. The latter produces attraction or repulsion depending upon the relative positions of more than one of each.

SHANKARACHARYA STARTS FROM THIS STAGE

According to Shankaracharya there cannot be several fundamental entities. Because different entities cannot have any action and interactions among them. i.e. They cannot have any function to affect on others.

The Cosmos (ब्रह्माण्ड) is made of one main entity (आत्मा=प्राणः).  It appears made of many entities, but it is made of single fundamental entity (आत्मा=प्राणः).

This entity combines and recombines with each and other combination, under combination & permutation principle.

A combination when gets a body of sensation, it is termed as living organism. Or we say it a living organism. In fact every thing is living thing from super-string to Cosmos.

LIVING THING CANNOT BE PRODUCED FROM NON-LIVING

This is because, it is next to impossible to create a living thing by combinations of non-living things. There is no way whatsoever, to produce living thing from non-living things.

Traditionally called living organisms are made of cells (say fundamental entities of body). Every ONE of these living cells maintains its uniqueness. It has a flow of energy within it. Product of oxidation. We too as a unique entity maintain our “one-ness” due to the flow of energy within us. Our cells remains alive and can do their functions under specific range of temperature. 

Cells are formed in our body, cells perform their respective functions and in due course they get decomposed. But the cells reproduce their types. The old ones are replaced in our body and we remain as a unique entity. We have feeling of one-ness. That is though we are made of many living cells we feel that we are one and only one only.

Similarly Cosmos is made of traditionally called  a lot living non-living things. We are formed, we perform functions, we reproduce off-springs to replace us in due course, but the Cosmos (societies, earths, Solar systems, milky ways/star-systems, clusters) remains with their uniqueness.

e.g. We have water cycle including blood, Air cycle, Food cycle, flow of electromagnetic  waves in cells. We live for 100 years. Earth too, is a living organism. It has energy cycles. Water cycle, air cycle, magnetic cycle, temperature control, animal and plant cycle.  Earth was born some 5 billions year back. Still it is alive and would remain alive. Similar is the case with Sun and solar system and galaxy. Ultimately it has been extended to our space time universe where the Planks’ constant has a specific value. There are many other space time universes with different value of Planks’ constant. (What is Plank’s constant? Energy E, associated with a vibration V. i.e. E=h.V Here “h” has a fixed value universally.

The philosophy of Shankaracharya is extensive. But the difference is that though we say “This is my self (I am) (अह‌म्‌) ” we do not know anything about our self, whereas the cosmos knows everything.

WE SEE ONLY COSMOS: WE ARE BLIND IN OUR BODY

Though we are in our body, we are blind in our body. We cannot pin-point our location within our body. We neither can pin-point the constituents of our body within our body, neither we can have any control on their functions. We cannot move within our body. We know nothing, we see nothing inside our body.

There are more than millions of functions in our body. These functions are performed by our constituent limbs and cells. We hardly control a single digit functions of those millions.

Then who controls the millions of million of functions in the universe? Is it not Super soul परमात्मा?.

IT IS NOT BY CHANCE

Our body functions so much selectively, preventively, defensively, progressively, correctively and aggressively that we cannot say that all these is by chance. This is the case with all including Earth and others.

That is why we cannot discard the existence of God.  God has made laws and left the Cosmos to obey. No exception, no divine obligation.     

THERE IS A CAUSE FOR EVERY ACTION

Shankaracharya says there is a cause for every action. There is only one action whose cause is not known. That one is as to why the Brahma (ब्रह्म) created Cosmos (ब्रह्माण्ड)?

What is Shiva ? Shiva is  ब्रह्म.

What is Brahmana ब्राह्मण ? Brahaman means product of Brahma ब्रह्म  And as per Vedas Fire (अग्नि )  is Brahmana ब्राह्मण.

What is Fire (अग्नि ) ? Fire is body of Rudra (रुद्र).

What is Rudra? Rudra is Cosmos  (ब्रह्माण्ड).

What is Shiva-lingam? It is a symbol of Cosmos in the form of a live Fire Flame ज्योतिर्‌ लिंगम्‌.

Why it is called sexual male symbol? It is false. It is the symbol of a Flame. ज्योतिर्‌ लिंगम्‌ . Because the Cosmic God has produced Jagat it is termed as producer.

वाम मार्गी took the meaning other symbol as producer. Non-Hindus want to take pleasure and fun by interpreting  लिंगम्‌ as sexual symbol. 

What is jagat जगत? The inter-relative activities of feeling in the Cosmos is called Jagat.

Whether Jagat is Sat (स‌‌‌त्)‌ or Asat (असत्)‌.? Jagat is neither Sat nor Asat. It is illusion माया. It cannot be interpreted (अनिर्वचनीयम्‌).

How does Jagat function?

ईश्वरः सर्वभूतानां ऋदेशेर्जुन तिष्ठति,

भ्रामयन्ति सर्वभूतानि यंत्रारुढेन मायया

Shiva resides at the brain (of living organisms) and governs all (activities) by his created illusion.

What is the conclusion?

   ईशावास्यं ईदं सर्वं यत्किंचित्‌ जगत्यांजगत्‌

तेन त्यक्तेन भूंजिथाः मा गृध कस्यस्चि‌त्‌ धनं

Shiva dwells everywhere whatsoever.

Therefore avail what has been left by him for you. Do not pluck that belongs to somebody else.

 

Shirish Mohanlal Dave

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