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September research newsletter

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hi you said you'ed love to help with the Wojtek project? did you mean it, if so can you indicate how and in what way. are you the same person https://www.facebook.com/piotrkonieczny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lambrook (talk • contribs) 11:36, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
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DYK? Nomination Review
Hello Piotrus,
Could you please review this DYK? nomination of mine?--Template:Did you know nominations/Historical polling for U.S. Presidential elections. If not, that's okay, but for some reason it has been several days now and no one was able to review this article (it needs a new review). Thank you very much. Futurist110 (talk) 01:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
GA reviews
I was just reviewing the WP:GAN page, and noticed you have several articles nominated. I'm not sure about the propriety of proposing a quid pro quo, but...well, that's what I'm doing. I was one of the editors involved in building the page Chen Guangcheng, which was nearing the end of its GA review when our reviewer mysteriously (and somewhat disconcertingly) disappeared. That was a month ago. I'm wondering if you might have time to pick up where he left off. I would gladly review an article on Polish history. Let me know if you're interested (and no worries if you're not). Homunculus (duihua) 05:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- Let me know if there's one in particular you'd like to have reviewed. Homunculus (duihua) 18:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 24 September 2012
- In the media: Editor's response to Roth draws internet attention
Oliver Keyes' (User:Ironholds) defense of Wikipedia against the recent Philip Roth controversy has drawn a significant amount of attention over the last week. The problems between Roth, a widely known and acclaimed American author, and Wikipedia arose from an open letter he penned for the American magazine New Yorker, and were covered by the Signpost two weeks ago. Keyes—who wrote the piece as a prominent Wikipedian but is also a contractor for the Wikimedia Foundation—wrote a blog post on the topic, lamenting the factual errors in Roth's letter and criticizing the media for not investigating his claims: "[they took] Roth’s explanation as the truth and launched into a lengthy discussion of how we [Wikipedia] handle primary sourcing."
- Recent research: "Rise and decline" of Wikipedia participation, new literature overviews, a look back at WikiSym 2012
A paper to appear in a special issue of American Behavioral Scientist (summarized in the research index) sheds new light on the English Wikipedia's declining editor growth and retention trends. The paper describes how "several changes that the Wikipedia community made to manage quality and consistency in the face of a massive growth in participation have lead to a more restrictive environment for newcomers". The number of active Wikipedia editors has been declining since 2007 and research examining data up to September 2009 has shown that the root of the problem has been the declining retention of new editors. The authors show this decline is mainly due to a decline among desirable, good-faith newcomers, and point to three factors contributing to the increasingly "restrictive environment" they face.
- WikiProject report: 01010010 01101111 01100010 01101111 01110100 01101001 01100011 01110011
This week, we tinkered with WikiProject Robotics. From the project's inception in December 2007, it has served as Wikipedia's hub for building and improving articles about robots and robotics, accumulating two Featured Articles and seven Good Articles along the way. The project covers both fictitious and real-life robots, the technology that powers them, and many of the brains behind the robotics field
- News and notes: UK chapter rocked by Gibraltar scandal
In the second controversy to engulf Wikimedia UK in two months, its immediate past chair Roger Bamkin has resigned from the board of the chapter. The resignation last Wednesday followed a growing furore over the conflict of interest between two of Roger's roles outside the chapter and his close involvement in the UK board's decision-making process, including the access to private mailing lists that board members in all chapters need. But the irony surrounding Roger's resignation is its connection with efforts by Wikimedians and collaborators to strengthen the reach of Wikimedia projects through technical innovation.
- Technology report: Signpost investigation: code review times
Late last month, the "Technology report" included a story using code review backlog figures – the only code review figures then available – to construct a rough narrative about the average experience of code contributors. This week, we hope to go one better, by looking directly at code review wait times, and, in particular, median code review times
- Featured content: Dead as...
Fourteen featured articles were promoted this week, including Dodo, along with six featured lists and five featured pictures.
- Discussion report: Image filter; HotCat; Syntax highlighting; and more
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
DYK for Officialese
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Nomination of Interface: a journal for and about social movements for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Interface: a journal for and about social movements is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interface: a journal for and about social movements (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. IRWolfie- (talk) 22:50, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Clarification
Can you clarify if you have any connection to the topic of Interface: a journal for and about social movements, and Laurence Cox. Google suggests yes. IRWolfie- (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Online Ambassador Inquiry
Hello Piotrus. I'm the instructor for a section of students at Ball State University in Indiana USA who are beginning a collaborative research project on Wikipedia for our Introduction to Digital Literacies class. I've been teaching with WP since Spring 2011; from my user page you can see a few example projects highlighted. We are currently in need of an online ambassador to advise several class groups on selecting topics and putting articles together: this means there will be four or five topics for an ambassador to assist with. Might you be interested in helping us? You can see the project timeline in my user area project subpage.
I have gone through the appropriate channels and application documents with the Wikimedia folks in charge of education programs, but have not heard back in nearly two weeks (I've emailed Jamie Mathewson twice). But time is getting short and we must begin—thus I'm taking the liberty of contacting potential ambassadors directly. Thanks for your consideration and good luck with your projects! –Webster Newbold (talk) 16:31, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Piotrus. If I can't find other another ambassador for my second section I'll look you up again. Best,Webster Newbold (talk) 20:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Note
Nice citation work as to the Nazism and Nazi Germany articles. Not an easy task. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 19:06, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Apology
Sorry about the post I wrote you in the Tadeusz Kosciuszko page. I wrote it when I waas tired so I didn't notice it wasn't you who wrote the post, but it's not really an excuse. I felt offended because the guy said Belarusians didn't exist then, and he also said Koscuiszko didn't consider himsellf Belarusian or spoke Belarusian (which is a lie because he said he isa Litvin, which means Belarusian, and he wrote his parents in Belarusian). I'm half Belarusian (and half Polish) and Kosciuszko is kind of a hero for me so hearing those stuff offended me, but again, there is no excuse while you should be told that you don't know this or that because you weren't even the one who wrote that comment. Danton's Jacobin (talk) 17:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
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DYK for 1999 F-117A shoot-down
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Reliable Source Help
Thank you for your advice and concern about the reliability of the sources on the Ithaca Bakery article.. We have recently contacted the owner of the company, who -for the history section- provided us with information in the form of Word Documents of speeches he has given in the past. We don't plan on including the information word for word, since we don't want the page to be promotional, but there is valuable historical information included which we would like to use. However, we aren't sure how to go about citing this document - do you have any advice/suggestions? Tpn22 (talk) 17:40, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (File:Hmv en.jpg)
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How to avoid content deletion
Hi, I'm part of Prof. Leshed's class at Cornell University. My group was just wondering if you have any tips to avoid content deletion after submitting additions to our article. We're editing the Brick Lane Market page. Heres a link to our talk page User talk:D4n2elle/BrickLaneMarket. Thanks! Joey236 (talk) 21:45, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the assistance! We should be about ready to submit the article tomorrow, but you can see what we have so far on our talk page (link above). Joey236 (talk) 22:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
WikiCup 2012 September newsletter

We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion.
Grapple X (submissions) currently leads, followed by
Sasata (submissions),
Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and
Casliber (submissions). However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of The Signpost. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.
It is good to see that three-quarters of our finalists have already scored bonus points this round. This shows that, contrary to criticism that the WikiCup has received in the past, the competition does not merely incentivise the writing of trivial articles; instead, our top competitors are still spending their time contributing to high-importance articles, and bringing them to a high standard. This does a great service to the encyclopedia and its readers. Thank you, and good work!
The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some straw polls have been opened concerning the scoring, and you can now sign up for next year's competition. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 20:00, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 01 October 2012
- Paid editing: Does Wikipedia Pay? The Founder: Jimmy Wales
Does Wikipedia Pay? is a Signpost series seeking to illuminate paid editing, paid advocacy, for-profit Wikipedia consultants, editing public relations professionals, conflict of interest guidelines in practice, and the Wikipedians who work on these issues by speaking openly with the people involved. This week, a scandal centering around Roger Bamkin's work with Wikimedia UK and Gibraltarpedia erupted ... In light of these events, opinions on how to avoid future controversy are as important as ever. ... The Signpost spoke with Jimmy Wales to better understand how he views the paid editing environment and what he thinks is needed to improve it.
- News and notes: Independent review of UK chapter governance; editor files motion against Wikitravel owners
Following considerable online and media reportage on the Gibraltar controversy and a Signpost report last week, the Wikimedia UK chapter and the foundation published a joint statement on September 28: "To better understand the facts and details of these allegations and to ensure that governance arrangements commensurate with the standing of the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia UK and the worldwide Wikimedia movement, Wikimedia UK's trustees and the Wikimedia Foundation will jointly appoint an independent expert advisor to objectively review both Wikimedia UK's governance arrangements and its handling of the conflict of interest."
- Featured content: Mooned
Five articles, three lists, and nine images were promoted to "featured" this week.
- Technology report: WMF and the German chapter face up to Toolserver uncertainty
The Toolserver is an external service hosting the hundreds of webpages and scripts (collectively known as "tools") that assist Wikimedia communities in dozens of mostly menial tasks. Few people think that it has been operating well recently; the problems, which include high database replication lag and periods of total downtime, have caused considerable disruption to the Toolserver's usual functions. Those functions are highly valued by many Wikimedia communities ... In 2011, the Foundation announced the creation of Wikimedia Labs, a much better funded project that among other things aimed to mimic the Toolserver's functionality by mid-2013. At the same time, Erik Möller, the WMF's director of engineering, announced that the Foundation would no longer be supporting the Toolserver financially, but would continue to provide the same in-kind support as it had done previously.
- WikiProject report: The Name's Bond... WikiProject James Bond
In celebration of the 50th anniversary of the James Bond film series, we spent some time bonding with WikiProject James Bond. The project is in the unique position of having already pushed all of its primary content to Good and Featured status, including all of Ian Fleming's novels, short stories, and every film that has been released. Work has begun in earnest on the article Skyfall for the release of the new Bond film later this month. The project could still use help improving articles about Bond actors, characters, gadgets, music, video games, and related topics
DYK for Social engagement
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Thank you!
Thanks for the help on the Brick Lane Market/Truman Markets page. I'll be sure to take out the "Introduction" header when the page is published! D4n2elle (talk) 05:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Request for Observer Feedback also from Cornell University Comm3460 Class
Hello, we are also a group from Professor Leshed's course and we are working on an article about Incentive-Centered Design. We have moved the contents of our article to the actual Wikipedia page for the topic. Could you please take a look at our article and provide your endorsement so it does not get nominated for rapid deletion? Thank you! Rr442 (talk) 03:11, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Professor Leshed introduced our class to your User page as our Online Ambassador to our Wikipedia projects. I am expanding the Cornell Big Red wrestling article that already exists on Wikipedia. We have found many sources, mostly from Cornell but also from major newspapers that discuss the History, Notable Alumni, and other information regarding Cornell wrestling that will greatly add to the existing page. Could you please look at our page and the including Talk that has the discussions on it and provide any feedback before we submit our changes to the actual page? Thank you! User:mvr24/Cornell Big Red Wrestling Mvr24 (talk) 17:38, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Piotrus. I restored the improvements you made at London Victory Celebrations of 1946. The page bans do seem draconian, but Sandstein probably meant well when he imposed them. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:46, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- Appealing the page ban for yourself seems like a good idea—you hadn't edited the page since 2007 and weren't part of the 2010 dispute. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:02, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- Looks good. You probably ought to notify Sandstein as a courtesy. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Cornell University Assignment - Comm 3460
Hello!
We are working under Prof. Leshed's Online Community class. She asks us to reach out to you to see the development of our page. If you could be so kind to take a quick look at it and offer your comments, we'll be extremely appreciative. --JP Comm (talk) 02:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jfn41791/WomensOversizedFashionintheUnitedStates#The_1990s
Hello!
My professor, Professor Leshed, has given my class your username for assistance with our group project. A group of fellow students and I are looking to create a page about Employee Resource Groups for our assignment. We have some discussion so far on User talk:Tpr37/proposal. We were wondering if there was a specific person we could contact about help with editing/discussion/keeping the page up once its posted. Do you have any advice or suggestions? Thank you so much!
Cu mn354 (talk) 23:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- To keep the topic up, you may wish to expand on User_talk:Tpr37/proposal#Topic to show why the topic is noteworthy. See the general requirements at WP:GNG. IRWolfie- (talk) 09:09, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Good idea, I copied it to the students' draft discussion page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:00, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for the suggestions! Cu mn354 (talk) 19:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- We have posted our article Employee Resource Groups. We would love if you could take a look at it for verification purposes! Thank you so much for all of your help. Cu mn354 (talk) 17:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Online Communities
Hi Piotr. Most of these articles are looking quite nice. Could you have a look at File:CTB Logo.jpg, though. It will probably be moved back from Commons to Wikipedia and tagged as fair use. Cheers, —Ruud 19:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- And the images on Employee resource groups seem to have come straight from Google Images... —Ruud 19:27, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Copyright law of South Korea
| On 5 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Copyright law of South Korea, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the enforcement of a 2009 three strikes policy introduced to the copyright law of South Korea has led to tens of thousands of Koreans being disconnected from the Internet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Copyright law of South Korea. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Survey pilot?
Hi Piotr, Might you be interested and willing to help pilot a survey by a colleague at Syracuse University on the motivation of contributors to Wikipedia? Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 22:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Yes, the request is to take the survey (I took it myself last night). It is available at: https://survey.ischool.syr.edu/TakeSurvey.aspx?SurveyID=88M39mm. There's a place at the end for comments/ feedback to the survey team. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
GA reassessments
Hi Piotrus. I notice you have a few reassessments open. I thought I would remind you of them in case you have forgotten, they seem to have been open for a while. They are Talk:Kiev Offensive (1920)/GA1 and Talk:Vilnius Castle Complex/GA2. Regards and thank you for doing quality control on our Good articles. AIRcorn (talk) 03:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- Definately delist Vilnius Castle Complex, an article cannot be good with that many {{cn}} tags. Personally I would remove all but the most blatant (i.e those with controversial or likely to be challenged statements) and add a {{refimprove}} as it is a bit overkill, although that has nothing to do with GAR. Same goes with the Kiev offensive although it doesn't appear as bad at first glance. Basically all you need to do is write Delist on the review somewhere, then remove the link to the reassessment from the talk page and update the {{article history}} template. It has been long enough now that no one is likely to fix it anytime soon, especially if the main editors, wikiprojects have been notified. Let me know if you need a hand with any of the technical stuff. AIRcorn (talk) 06:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just a few little fixs , , and . AIRcorn (talk) 22:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for World War II looting of Poland
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Ursuline Academy
Thanks for the investigation! I asked you pretty much immediately after the place received National Register designation, and it hadn't yet been added to our list. I had no clue that it was already PHLF-designated, so I didn't know that we already had the image. Nyttend (talk) 17:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Dhimitër Mborja
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DYK reviews
Piotrus, were you planning to come back to any of these reviews that you initiated, or should we look for new people to finish them off?
- Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Johnson Pharazyn
- Template:Did you know nominations/Alvin Leung
- Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Takano
Please let me know here what your plans are. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:25, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- If you're approving these, by which I assume you've done the remaining review steps, please include the appropriate tick, and at the beginning of your comment rather than the end. It's much easier to see by those people who subsequently promote the hooks to the prep areas if it's the first thing visible on the left edge. (Without a tick, it doesn't show up on the queue list in the approved count per day.) Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:21, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Charles Johnson Pharazyn DYK
Thanks for the review. The Charles Johnson Pharazyn DYK needs the formal tick mark, though. Schwede66 18:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Changing a STUB-CLASS rating, and changing a LOW-IMPORTANCE RATING, for PESA SA article.
Hi, Piotrus!
I have two easy questions for you, relating to the article PESA SA, where I just posted a greatly expanded and re-written article - essentially, a totally new article: QUESTION (1) How does one change a STUB-CLASS rating? (The former article was indeed STUB-CLASS, almost nothing; my new article is almost too detailed. My new article is mainly a translation of the Polish Wikipedia article Pojazdy Szynowe PESA Bydgoszcz, plus an expanded end section. Not just about railways, the Polish and new English articles touch on Polish history and politics since 1851). The new article is definitely not STUB-CLASS. Looking into the Wikipedia 'Manual of Style,' I couldn't even find a definition of 'Template' - it talked about doing things with templates, rather unclearly, without telling you what a template is. As far as I can tell, a template is something involving text placed between curly brackets: {{......}}. So, in PESA SA I deleted a line near the end saying class="assess-stub " style="color:inherit; background: #ffa4a4; text-align: center; " | Stub, and that message no longer appears at the end of the article. But I don't think this is the proper solution.
QUESTION (2) Who changes an IMPORTANCE rating? PESA is now the largest rail equipment maker in Poland, and looking at comparable firms, the article MTU Friedrichshafen about a comparable-size firm in Germany is rated MID-IMPORTANCE, while the article on the largest German maker Bombardier Transportation is rated HIGH-IMPORTANCE. Thus PESA SA should be at least MID-IMPORTANCE. Explanatory Note, why I upgraded the article: on September 19, 2012, PESA signed a contract worth up to $1.5 billion with Deutsche Bahn - an enormous contract, with the very fussy Germans who usually buy only from German firms. On September 19, TRAFFIC STATISTICS for the English article PESA SA jumped from normally about 50 up to 555, and on Polish Wikipedia TRAFFIC STATISTICS for 'Pojazdy szynowe PESA..' jumped from 200, up to 1169.Prospero10 (talk) 19:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Re: question
Piotr, what exactly would you like me to do at Template:Did you know nominations/The ScareHouse? Propose a new ALT hook? Poeticbent talk 17:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I note you uploaded this media, would you mind expanding the fair use rationale so it addresses ALL 10 points of WP:NFCC?Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:28, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- If you think it should be deleted (your comment on my talk page) then feel free to tag it, i thought I'd ask though :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:12, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of File:Warsaw Arsenal 1938.jpg

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Hi, I note you uploaded this media, would you mind expanding the fair use rationale so it addresses ALL 10 points of WP:NFCC?Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:10, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Brzesc Litewski i Okolice
Drogi Panie Piotrusiu, Dotarlem do Pana adresu patrzac na to, skad pojawily sie w Wikipedii wiadomosci o sowiecko-niemieckiej defiladzie w Brzesciu Litewskim. Wyglada na to, ze ma Pan wiecej ode mnie czasu i zainteresowania aby zajmowac sie takimi rzeczami. Prosze zatem aby zwrocil Pan uwage na to, co ten artykul mowi o relacji miedzy polskim wojskiem a Armia Czerwona gdy wkroczyla w polskie granice. Polscy zolnierze (tak naprawde, oficerowie) dostali jasny rozkaz od swojego Wodza Naczelnego: "z Sowietami nie walczyc" [tymi slowy, nie pamietam daty i numeru rozkazu, ale jestem pewien tresci, i doslownego brzmienia: "z Sowietami nie walczyc"]. Ja jestem daleko pod kazdym wzgledem (miedzy innymi dlatego ze mieszkam bardzo daleko od Warszawy), ale skoro Pan jest --jak sie wydaje-- blizej, to sugeruje zeby spojrzal Pan uwaznie na to, co w Wikipedii mozna o tym przeczytac i zredagowal w tym i wszystkich innych haslach Wikipedii. Zdroweczko, Jaroslaw
O co tez tu chodzi z owymi czterema tyldami? Ale skoro trzeba, to podpisze czterema tyldami. Grzdacz (talk) 00:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 08 October 2012
- News and notes: Education Program faces community resistance
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- WikiProject report: Ten years and one million articles: WikiProject Biography
On this day five years ago, the WikiProject Report debuted as a new Signpost column with an overview of WikiProject Biography. Today, we're celebrating two milestone: five years of the WikiProject Report and the tenth birthday of our first featured project. WikiProject Biography is by far the largest WikiProject on Wikipedia, with over one million articles under the project's scope. As a comparison, WikiProject Biography is three times larger than Wikipedia's second largest project, and if WikiProject Biography were split into its 14 subprojects and work groups, it would still make the list of the 20 largest WikiProjects... four times.
- Featured content: A dash of Arsenikk
This week the Signpost interviews Arsenikk, an editor of six years who has brought sixteen lists through our featured list process, mostly regarding transportation in Norway but also about the 1952 Winter Olympics and World Heritage Sites in Africa. Arsenikk tells us about why he joined the project, what moves him, and how editors can join the sometimes daunting world of featured lists.
- Technology report: The ups and downs of September and October, plus extension code review analysis
The Wikimedia Foundation's engineering report for September 2012 was published this week on the Wikimedia Techblog and on the MediaWiki wiki, giving an overview of all Foundation-sponsored technical operations in that month (as well as brief coverage of progress on Wikimedia Deutschland's Wikidata project, phase 1 of which is edging its way towards its first deployment). Three of the seven headline items in the report have already been covered in the Signpost: problems with the corruption of several Gerrit (code) repositories, the introduction of widespread translation memory across Wikimedia wikis, and the launch of the "Page Curation" tool on the English Wikipedia, with development work on that project now winding down. The report also drew attention to the end of Google Summer of Code 2012, the deployment to the English Wikipedia of a new ePUB (electronic book) export feature, and improvements to the WLM app aimed at more serious photographers.
- Discussion report: Closing RfAs: Stewards or Bureaucrats?; Redesign of Help:Contents
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I have no idea how to put this into the DYK page. I will keep adding info, but if you can help me or post it on, I give you all the permission and best wishes to go ahead.--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 01:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- if you could, I have a recommended line:
Did you know... ...that in 1944, FDR made a pledge in Chicago one week before the presidential elections to uphold the Atlantic Charter relating to Poland--and after he won over 90% of the Polish-American vote, he gave in to Joseph Stalin and allowed Poland to be taken into Soviet rule after World War II.
DYK for Onufry Zagłoba
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polskie PD
Dzięki za zaproszenie do współredagowania tego nader dla polskich wikipedystów ważnego elementu wiki-commonsowego puzzla.
Bardzo jednak żałuję, ale po pierwsze nie dysponuję ani dostatecznie precyzyjną wiedzą prawniczą, ani dostatecznie obszerną bibliografią w zakresie prawa autorskiego (polskiego i amerykańskiego) - bo oba trzeba brać pod uwagę, nie mówiąc o prawie byłych naszych zaborców - by poczuwać się do prawa do odpowiedzialnego zabierania głosu. Po stronach i podstronach Wikimedia Commons przewijają się całe tabuny samozwańczych znawców i pseudospecjalistów, którzy najczęściej robią mniej odpornym uczestnikom projektu wodę z mózgu swoimi własnymi definicjami (jeden z moich nieżyjących znajomych takie dodawane "od siebie" określenia i sformułowania, bądź interpretacje,miał zwyczaj nazywać smakowitym słowem odsiebięciny). Widziałem Twoje starcie z jednym z tych młodych (?) gniewnych sprzed paru dni, zresztą to ono najpewniej stało się jedną z przyczyn podjęcia się przez Ciebie próby uporządkowania tego tematu.
Ja nie chcę i nie umiem się do grupy "gniewnych" ani "specjalistów" zaliczać (młody zaś już od dawna nie jestem), więc pozwolę sobie pozostać tylko skromnym obserwatorem. Swoje uprawnienia admińskie na commons trzymam w dolnej szufladzie, rzadko ją otwierając, najczęściej w okolicznościach nie budzących wątpliwości.
Na to wszystko nakłada się jeszcze brak dostatecznej zdolności porozumiewania się po angielsku (zwłaszcza w zawiłej prawniczej nomenklaturze), co przekłada się oczywiście na brak pewności siebie w wypowiadaniu się w tym języku i prowadzeniu polemik.
Pozdrawiam serdecznie Julo (talk) 17:38, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Map ideas
At WikiProject Poland, could you get someone to make a map of the proposals in the Treaty of Marienburg and the Treaty of Radnot ? The latter is an especially interesting "what if" of history - it would have been a 17th century partition of Poland between Sweden, Brandenburg, Transylvania, Lithuania and Ukraine. Afaik no such map exists, anywhere. This is what WP is for. TIA am running away back into semi-retirement now! -Chumchum7 (talk) 18:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Stanislaw Zulkiewski GA
Masz czasem dostep do Nagielskiego? Volunteer Marek 06:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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Tadeusz Kościuszko revert war
Hello :-) Hope you are well! On the Tadeusz Kościuszko there is some anonymous guy who keeps on deleting all the sources about Tadeusz Kościuszko's Belarusian roots, without giving any arguments or going to the talk page. He has a dynaic IP so I doubt it is possible to block him, I was wondering if we can protect the page so only registered editors could use it? Could you update me please on the procedure to use it? Danton's Jacobin (talk) 18:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- I might have to do that if he continues. Thank you :-) Danton's Jacobin (talk) 18:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Copyright law of Panama
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This Month in Education: October 2012
The Signpost: 15 October 2012
- Op-ed: AdminCom: A proposal for changing the way we select admins
There is wide agreement among English Wikipedians that the administrator system is in some ways broken—but no consensus on how to fix it. Most suggestions have been relatively small in scope, and could at best produce small improvements. I would like to make a proposal to fundamentally restructure the administrator system, in a way that I believe would make it more effective and responsive. The proposal is to create an elected Administration Committee ("AdminCom") which would select, oversee, and deselect administrators.
- In the media: Wikipedia's language nerds hit the front page
This week saw a front-page story in the Wall Street Journal on editorial debates in Wikipedia. The story focused on the title-naming dispute surrounding the Beatles article, and specifically the RfC on whether the 'the' in the band's name should be capitalized or not.
- Featured content: Second star to the left
On the English Wikipedia, five featured articles, ten featured lists, and four featured pictures were promoted, including USS Lexington, a ship built for the United States Navy that, although ordered in 1916 as a battlecruiser, was converted to an aircraft carrier. It was sunk in the Battle of the Coral Sea during the Second World War.
- News and notes: Chapters ask for big bucks
The volunteer-led Wikimedia Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and interested community members are looking at Wikimedia organization applications worth about US$10.4 million out of the committee's first full year's operation, in just the inaugural round one of two that have been planned for the year with a planned budget of US$11.4M.
- Technology report: Wikidata is a go: well, almost
A trial of the first phase of Wikimedia Deutschland's "Wikidata" project–implementing the first ever interwiki repository—may soon get underway following the successful passage of much of its code through MediaWiki's review processes this week.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Chemicals
This week, we experimented with WikiProject Chemicals. Started in August 2004, WikiProject Chemicals has grown to include over 10,000 articles about chemical compounds. The project has a unique assessment system that omits C-class, Good, and Featured Articles. As a result, the project's 11 GAs and 9 FAs are treated as A-class articles. WikiProject Chemicals is a child of WikiProject Chemistry (interviewed in 2009) and a parent of WikiProject Polymers.
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Chinese bronzes
For information, & likewise of course. Johnbod (talk) 16:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Advert tag?
Hi,
You have tagged Spencer Stuart with an "advert" wiki-tag? Can you please explain why? Ottawahitech (talk) 19:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
New picture of Ernest Pike
Hi Piotrus, I have found a new and much better picture of the tenor Ernest Pike that shows a full portrait of him. This picture has been scanned from an early HMV record cover dating from about 1908. We must presume that the original copyright holder must have been HMV or its predecessor the Gramophone & Typewriter company, but there is no author on the photo. So in the UK - with an unknown author I presume that it is now out of copyright as it is over 70 years since publication. In the U.S it will be out of copyright anyway as it was published before Jan 1 1923. In fact it should be out of copyright everywhere as it was published more than 100 years ago. I have tried to upload this, but the upload wizard is not working for me. I have tried 2 computers. Is there a problem with uploads at the moment or can you help/advise me? Richard J Myers (talk) 14:42, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
--- The problem is that the "local upload" is not working - it connects then says it is uploading, then never completes the upload. The upload wizard talk shows that others have the same issue.
So I have tried the wiki commons upload which does work - but does not have any settings for UK copyright!. nor is there anywhere to set the PD-UK-unknown. I tried putting it in a licensse field and it will not accept it. So I don't know what to do. Either:- 1. The local (US and UK) wizard needs to be be fixed or/ 2. Can you explain how I upload UK pictures to the Wiki Commons which appears to be for US pictures only or do I assume that if it is out of copyright in the UK that it is also out of copyright in the US.
Richard J Myers (talk) 17:48, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi again, Its all sorted - the uploads were working all along, but the uploader did not say when the upload was complete. Also - I coudn't find the files uploaded because the file name given by the uploader was what I thought was the full length description string! So the file names are quite long but this is no bad thing - I have found them at least. I now know (with help from the forum) that I can check all the files I have downloaded from a user contributions page or a file list page. Finally, when I release the new article, if I let you know when - could I ask you to check it to make sure it is OK - will probably be in 1 or 2 days time? Thanks for your help. Richard J Myers (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, The potential new picture (which has been scanned by me) for the revised Ernest Pike article is:
"The tenor Ernest Pike standing in front of a Sheraton gramophone.jpg"
This picture would have appeared in about 1908 on record covers for the Zonophone/HMV grand opera series of records which Pike sang on. The photographer is unknown and it would have been first published in the UK probably in around 1907. So the question is whether HMV can still claim any copyright as a company? You should be able to accesss the uploaded photo (not yet added to the article). I would appreciate it if you could review whether I can add this to the article without any issues and if necessary amend the copyright info attached to it. The last Pike photo I uploaded caused a lively discussion - I would prefer it if this one was more peaceful! I do think this is an excellent photo of him which is entirely relevant to the article as very few pictures of him exist at all and the photo on the existing article is a very poor picture of him. Thanks in advance for your help. 208.85.2.68 (talk) 14:35, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Richard, is that you? If it is, as I said before, this is PD, use the templates I linked on your talk, and of course add the above info about the source to the description of the picture. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi - Yes sorry it was me and I didn't sign. A link to the photo I have uploaded is given below. Can I ask you to check if the licence looks OK for this. If not - how do I add the licence commons:Template:PD-UK-unknown now to this picture?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ernest_Pike_standing_by_a_Sheraton_gramophone.jpg
Richard J Myers (talk) 17:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi again, I've managed to add the UK licence now as you suggested. Thanks.
Richard J Myers (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Piotrus, And I have now published a completely revised and enalrged version of this article with more detail and better inline citations - proper lead parapgraph etc. What would I have to do to make this a "Good" article now?
Best regards Richard J Myers (talk) 21:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for the advice - I will look into these things. I have now added the old picture back into the operatic recordingd section. I have already uploaded a better resolution version of this and will replace the picture with this when I have attached relevant licensing info.
Regards Richard J Myers (talk) 22:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of U 47 – Kapitänleutnant Prien
I beleive to have addressed your concerns. Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing again! I left another comment MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Multiple edits on Ernest Pike
Hi Piotrus,
I have to ask - why do so many edits have to be made to articles that I have written? Wikipedia is full of badly written articles with no proper references and no-one seems to do anything about these. Let's look, for example at the: Peter Dawson (bass-baritone) article. This has no inline citations at all and few proper references at the end of the article and Peter Dawson is more important than Pike. Dawson is not even tagged as a problem article - and it should be. Yet when I write a good well-referenced article in clear English and put in decent references - they have to be taken out. Why do not all the people who have to make so many edits to my one article focus on articles like Peter Dawson, Stanley Kirkby etc. instead?
Yours frustrated Richard J Myers (talk) 09:28, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
I know you must be busy - but I would like to be able to sort this out - thanks -- Richard J Myers (talk) 16:03, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Piotrus,
Thanks for reply. I will accept your answer that it is not because there is a serious issue with it. With regard to archiving the my talk page - I had no idea that there was a way of doing this other than occasional manual deletion of expired topics. -- Richard J Myers (talk) 16:34, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- Piotrus, in some of the paragraphs, the same ref was repeated over and over, when the whole paragraph was referenced to the same, or a couple of, references. So, we don't need to keep restating the same ref. We can see, for example, that in the first paragraph under "Operatic recordings", all of the references are to one source. The paragraph had the ref six times in a row, and I have reduced it to four times, which is still overkill. As you noted to Richard, we are trying to help him. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:00, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message. You cannot be saying that you think this ref must be repeated SIX times in the same short paragraph, which has no other refs. Surely four times is enough. The two consecutive sentences will not be split, because they both refer to the same recording. Please take a closer look at the text. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Wrocław
Polish city of Wroclaw comes to terms with its German past
http://news.yahoo.com/polish-city-wroclaw-comes-terms-german-past-174953190.html
Isn't it amazing that it's taken nearly 70 years for this (largely) untold story to come 'out' in mainstream Western media?
DYK nomination of Sebastiano Montelupi
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DYK for Self-fulfillment
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Hi Piotrus. Sejmik has been promoted to B class. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 10:49, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- I thought about the article structure as I reviewed it. I moved a few sentences around to improve the flow (I hope). I think the structure is probably fine the way it is, unless you want to break the history section into subsections. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:25, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Piotrus. I responded to your question on my talk page about this article with another question. At the time, I did not check the status of the article before replying, so I had assumed that it had been nominated at WP:GAN. I see that it has not been nominated. P.S. General sejm is now a GA. Pyrotec (talk) 21:28, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
World Court Page
Hi! I'll send you an email in case I didn't do this right, but hopefully you get this message. I think my page (World Courts of Women) is ready to go, at least for a first draft. I'll add more to it once it's up. Can you take a look and make sure it's okay? And let me know how to make it an actual page? Then I can do the nomination thing if you think it qualifies for that. Thank you for all of your help!
Bjduncan1024 (talk) 01:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I didn't send an email once I saw you had replied to my message. Sorry for the email from Jackie - she is anxious to get this posted and thinks I have been taking too long. Fortunately, I think it should be ready to go now. She's not as interested in nominating it for the main page, so if that doesn't happen, it's okay. I just want to get it posted.
I don't have an option to move it. Can you move it, or do I need to submit it for review? Thanks!
DYKs
Feel free to nominate if you like. Renata (talk) 17:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Berlin Victory Parade of 1945
| On 23 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Berlin Victory Parade of 1945, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 82nd Airborne Division participated in two end-of-World War II victory parades, the Berlin Victory Parade of 1945 and the New York City Victory Parade of 1946? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Berlin Victory Parade of 1945. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for New York City Victory Parade of 1946
| On 23 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article New York City Victory Parade of 1946, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 82nd Airborne Division participated in two end-of-World War II victory parades, the Berlin Victory Parade of 1945 and the New York City Victory Parade of 1946? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Casualties at Kircholm
What's your opinion on the casualties suffered at Kircholm I stated at the Talkpage, as I see you wandered through there? Imonoz (talk) 17:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012
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DYK for Sebastiano Montelupi
| On 24 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sebastiano Montelupi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that 444 years ago, Poland's Royal Posts were entrusted to an Italian banker, Sebastiano Montelupi? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sebastiano Montelupi. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The Signpost: 22 October 2012
- Special report: Examining adminship from the German perspective
Unlike the long-running disputes that have characterised attempts to reform the RfA process on the English Wikipedia, the German Wikipedia's tradition of making decisions not by consensus but knife-edged 50% + 1 votes has led to a fundamentally different outcome. In 2009, the project managed to largely settle the RfA mode issue in 2009 indirectly.
- Arbitration report: Malleus Fatuorum accused of circumventing topic ban; motion to change "net four votes" rule
One clarification request concerns the civility enforcement case – specifically, Malleus Fatuorum's perceived circumvention of his topic ban. It has resulted in thousands of bytes spent in vitriolic discussions, multiple blocks, and "no confidence" motions against the Arbitration Committee and one arbitrator, among other ramifications.
- Technology report: Wikivoyage migration: technical strategy announced
Planning for Wikivoyage's migration into the WMF fold built up steam this week following a statement by WMF Deputy Director Erik Möller about what the technical side of the migration will involve. Wikivoyage, which split from sister site Wikitravel in 2006, is hoping to migrate its own not-inconsiderable user base to Wikimedia, as well as much of its content, presenting novel challenges for Wikimedia developers
- Discussion report: Good articles on the main page?; reforming dispute resolution
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- News and notes: Wikimedians get serious about women in science
It is well known that women are underrepresented in the sciences, and that high-achieving female scientists have often been excluded from authorship lists and passed over for awards and honours solely on the basis of gender. Also significant has been the underplaying in the academic literature, news reporting, and online, of women's current and historical contributions to science.
- WikiProject report: Where in the world is Wikipedia?
The WikiProject Report normally brings tidings from Wikipedia's most active, inventive, and unique WikiProjects. This week, we're trying something new by focusing on Wikipedia's dark side: the various regional and national WikiProjects that are dead or dying. How can some tiny municipalities and exclaves generate highly active, cross-language, multimedia platforms be successful while the projects representing many sovereign countries and entire continents wallow in obscurity? Today, we'll search for answers among geographic projects large and small, highly active and barely functioning, enthusiastic about the future and mired in past conflicts.
- Featured content: Is RfA Kafkaesque?
Eleven articles, including one on Franz Kafka, three lists, one image, and one portal were promoted to 'featured' status this week.
Please could you clarify more precisely which part of Biography should I change. And please give me just a little more time to edit the text. Asanovicsimo (talk) 15:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Al Jazeera effect
Hello! Your submission of Al Jazeera effect at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! — Kpalion(talk) 21:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi! the page is growing, and I would like people on the Polish-speaking portal of Wikipedia to know about it. How can a translation request for Polish-American vote be made?--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 22:26, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen
Hello! Your submission of Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 15:27, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have a feeling some parts still needs to be fixed. Please confirm (or correct me if I'm wrong). Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 17:16, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hello. Since we have been collaborating lately on this project, would you mind assessing/translation checking the article of Ignacy Tłoczyński, a page you contributed at the very beginning? Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 14:27, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hello again. I guess I'm done fixing what you've pointed out. Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 19:22, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think you can take a look at it now. Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 12:08, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hello again. I guess I'm done fixing what you've pointed out. Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 19:22, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hello. Since we have been collaborating lately on this project, would you mind assessing/translation checking the article of Ignacy Tłoczyński, a page you contributed at the very beginning? Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 14:27, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Roberto Bandinelli
Hi Piotr. DYK nom at Template:Did you know nominations/Roberto Bandinelli. Cheers. Poeticbent talk 17:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm back
So what' the problem with the one article? Ajh1492 (talk) 20:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you
Thanks for joining WikiProject Freedom of speech! :) — Cirt (talk) 03:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Re: your earlier stub
Just to let you know, I do not wish, nor intend to DYK this architectural structure, because of the sorry state it is in after a court battle. Nothing to be particularly proud of I guess. Poeticbent talk 19:43, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
CUE logo
Hey, in 2006 in article about Cracow University of Economics you have uploaded logo of the Cracow Academy of Economics. Since 2007 the school has status of university and the logo is not up to date. The new one can be found on the official page of CUE.
Kind regards, Bartek Bart freed (talk) 01:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Poland–Spain relations
| On 27 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Poland–Spain relations, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Poland and Spain had no diplomatic relations following the end of World War II, until two years after general Francisco Franco's death? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Poland–Spain relations. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Al Jazeera effect
| On 27 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Al Jazeera effect, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the term Al Jazeera effect used to describe the revolutionary impact of Al Jazeera network on Arab world media has been generalized more globally to other forms of new media? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Al Jazeera effect. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

The article Jacek Inglot has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
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DYK for Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen
| On 29 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in the first half of the 19th century, the Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen continued Polish parliamentary traditions in the territories of the Prussian partition? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Stefan Czarniecki
I have started the review for Stefan Czarniecki. Albacore (talk) 15:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
A Mega Award
| The 200 DYK Nomination Medal | ||
| DYK is known for awards but I think the person who nominated 1,000 of other people's articles is the real star. I bet many haven't spotted that there is a DYK nominations award. OK you've created some articles but there is only one word for editors who nominate the work of others two hundred times. Respect. Victuallers (talk) 22:31, 29 October 2012 (UTC) |
Polish American vote, Polish American map.jpg
Hey Piotrus, hope all is well. I've been having some power shorts here at home, so hopefully this hurricane will subside soon.
I know we talked last about translating the page, and I am actually very excited about the page's development. It looks good and it is growing better everyday. I'm especially happy with a map I created, File:Polish America map.jpg which makes the Polish-American page look and more engaging. Between the two, I think we'll have no trouble baiting a polish-speaking wikipedian into translating some info. It certainly doesn't have to be the whole thing, but between the Poland portal and the Polish wikipedia, I think we can get someone interested. What do you think?--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 05:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know the portals, I have no idea how to manuveur that or who to talk to to make an impact. Basically, since I speak no Polish, think of yourself as my only real link to the Polish wikipedia at present.--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 05:40, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 29 October 2012
- News and notes: First chickens come home to roost for FDC funding applicants; WMF board discusses governance issues and scope of programs
The first round of the Wikimedia Foundation's new financial arrangements has proceeded as planned, with the publication of scores and feedback by Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) staff on applications for funding by 11 entities—10 chapters, independent membership organisations supporting the WMF's mission in different countries, and the foundation itself. The results are preliminary assessments that will soon be put to the FDC's seven voting members and two non-voting board representatives. The FDC in turn will send its recommendations to the board of trustees on 15 November, which will announce its decision by 15 December. Funding applications have been on-wiki since 1 October, and the talk pages of applications were open for community comment and discussion from 2 to 22 October, though apart from queries by FDC staff, there was little activity.
- WikiProject report: In recognition of... WikiProject Military History
This week, we're checking out ways to motivate editors and recognize valuable contributions by focusing on the awards and rewards of WikiProject Military History. Anyone unfamiliar with WikiProject Military History is encouraged to start at the report's first article about the project and make your way forward. While many WikiProjects provide a barnstar that can be awarded to helpful contributors, WikiProject Military History has gone a step further by creating a variety of awards with different criteria ranging from the all-purpose WikiChevrons to rewards for participating in drives and improving special topics to medals for improving articles up to A-class status to the coveted "Military Historian of the Year" award.
- Technology report: Improved video support imminent and Wikidata.org live
The TimedMediaHandler extension (TMH), which brings dramatic improvements to MediaWiki's video handling capabilities, will go live to the English Wikipedia this week following a long and turbulent development, WMF Director of Platform Engineering Rob Lanphier announced on Monday ... Wikidata.org, a new repository designed to host interwiki links, launched this week and will begin accepting links shortly. The site, which is one half of the forthcoming Wikidata trial (the other half being the Wikidata client, which will be deployed to the Hungarian Wikipedia shortly) will also act as a testing area for phase 2 of Wikidata (centralised data storage). The longer term plan is for Wikidata.org to become a "Wikimedia Commons for data" as phases 2 and 3 (dynamic lists) are developed, project managers say.
- Featured content: On the road again
Thirteen articles, ten lists, nine images, one topic, and one portal were promoted to featured after peer reviews.
- Recent research: WP governance informal; community as social network; efficiency of recruitment and content production; Rorschach news
A paper in the Journal of the American Society for Information Science and Technology, coming from the social control perspective and employing the repertory grid technique, has contributed interesting observations about the governance of Wikipedia.
ZoSia Karbowiak Biography
We have worked very hard to obtain additional information, links and credibility. We are hoping to build this page over the next few years. I am hoping you will remove the mark for deletion and give this page a chance to exist. She is a brilliant song writer and lyricist and her career has only begun. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulhus15 (talk • contribs) 10:46, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Natural disasters DYKnom
I've addressed your comments; feel free to take another look! Thanks your your help, LonelyBoy2012 (talk) 20:51, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
WikiCup 2012 October newsletter

The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to
Cwmhiraeth (submissions), our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009), Sturmvogel 66 (2010) and Hurricanehink (2011). Our final standings were as follows:
Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
Sasata (submissions)
Grapple X (submissions)
Casliber (submissions)
Muboshgu (submissions)
Miyagawa (submissions)
Ruby2010 (submissions)
Dana Boomer (submissions)
Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.
- The featured article award goes to
Grapple X (submissions), for four featured articles in the final round. - The good article award also goes to
Grapple X (submissions), for 19 good articles in the second round. - The list award goes to
Muboshgu (submissions), for three featured lists in the final round. - The topic award goes to
Grapple X (submissions), for three good topics (with around 40 articles) in round 4. - The did you know award goes to
Cwmhiraeth (submissions), for well over 100 DYKs in the final round. - The news award goes to
ThaddeusB (submissions), for 10 in the news items in round 3. - The picture award goes to
Grandiose (submissions), for two featured pictures in round 2. - The reviewer award goes to both
Ruby2010 (submissions) (14 reviews in round 1) and
Grandiose (submissions) (14 reviews in round 3). - Finally, for achieving an incredible bonus point total in the final round, and for bringing the top-importance article frog to featured status, a biostar has been awarded to
Cwmhiraeth (submissions).
Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.
Next year's WikiCup will begin in January. Currently, discussions and polls are open, and all contributions are welcome. You can also sign up for next year's competition. There will be no further newsletters this year, although brief notes may be sent out in December to remind everyone about the upcoming competition. It's been a pleasure to work with you all, and we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Conflict (process)
| On 1 November 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Conflict (process), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that some conflicts may be beneficial? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Conflict (process). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualitative_research - External Links
Thanks for the welcome Piotrus! I saw the revert you made, but I am not sure why it was made. As I am new I would like to know, so that I do not make the same mistakes again. I read the guidelines for what types of external links should be avoided, but did not think my link fell under any of those categories. Will await your reply, thanks!
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zosia Karbowiak and barnstar
I see you've commented on the AfD discussion for Zosia Karbowiak. Was your reply a comment or a !vote? It isn't particularly clear if it's a comment or a !vote. Can you please clarify that on the discussion page? Thank you and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and since it appears you are doing quite well in DYKs, I would like to award you this barnstar:
| The Original Barnstar | ||
| For your extensive work in creating or improving articles that later appear in DYK. –Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC) |
re: External Links
Thanks for the tips! I will contribute more next time I make an edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tami Allen (talk • contribs) 15:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Why Die for Danzig?
| On 6 November 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Why Die for Danzig?, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the French author of the World War II anti-war slogan Why Die for Danzig?, Marcel Déat, later became a Nazi collaborator? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Why Die for Danzig?. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 05 November 2012
- Op-ed: 2012 WikiCup comes to an end
J Milburn is a British editor who has been on the site since 2006. He is one of two judges of the WikiCup. Here, he uses an op-ed to explain the way the WikiCup works and to review this year's competition, which ended recently.
- News and notes: Wikimedian photographic talent on display in national submissions to Wiki Loves Monuments
The results of most of the national heats for Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM) have been published on Commons. A maximum of 10 images have been submitted by all but eight of the 34 participating countries, and the international jury for what is the largest competition of its type in the world is set to announce the global winner in four weeks' time.
- In the media: Was climate change a factor in Hurricane Sandy?
Hurricane Sandy was the largest Atlantic hurricane on record and has caused millions of dollars in damage. Naturally, Wikipedia covered it. But was Wikipedia's coverage unbiased?
- Discussion report: Protected Page Editor right; Gibraltar hooks
The Signpost's weekly roundup of topics for discussion on the English Wikipedia.
- Featured content: Jack-O'-Lanterns and Toads
This week, the Signpost interviewed two editors. The first, PumpkinSky, collaborated with Gerda Arendt in writing the recently featured article on Franz Kafka and won second prize in the Core contest last August. The second, Cwmhiraeth, collaborated with Thompsma in promoting the article Frog, which was featured last week. We asked them about the special challenges faced while writing Core content and things to watch out for.
- Technology report: Hue, Sqoop, Oozie, Zookeeper, Hive, Pig and Kafka
The Wikimedia Foundation's engineering report for October 2012 was published this week on the Wikimedia Techblog and on the MediaWiki wiki, giving an overview of all Foundation-sponsored technical operations in that month. TimedMediaHandler also went live.
- WikiProject report: Listening to WikiProject Songs
This week, The Signpost sings along with WikiProject Songs which focuses on articles about songs of every generation and genre. The project initially began as a rough outline in October 2002 and was reimagined in March 2004 using its parent WikiProject Albums as a template.
GA review for Scipione Piattoli
Hello Piotrus. I just completed a detailed GA review Scipione Piattoli for GA status. The article was fun to read and I learned a lot from it! The review page is here. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 03:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- I just promoted the article to GA status, one more flower to add to your opulent boutonnière. Keep up the good work! Madalibi (talk) 01:49, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- You are very welcome. If you have time and you are interested, you are also welcome to take a quick look at Shunzhi Emperor of China, an article I just submitted for featured article (my first FAC). It would be wonderful to receive your comments on any single section, just to see if the prose makes sense to readers who may not know much about Chinese history, though I cannot presume that this is your case, of course. Anyway, the review page is here. It was nice being in touch about the Piattoli review, which taught me a lot about Polish history. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 09:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. I think I just finished addressing your concerns. Let me know what you think! Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 06:48, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- You are very welcome. If you have time and you are interested, you are also welcome to take a quick look at Shunzhi Emperor of China, an article I just submitted for featured article (my first FAC). It would be wonderful to receive your comments on any single section, just to see if the prose makes sense to readers who may not know much about Chinese history, though I cannot presume that this is your case, of course. Anyway, the review page is here. It was nice being in touch about the Piattoli review, which taught me a lot about Polish history. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 09:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
FYI
You tagged Cornell Concert Commission with a notability tag, so you may be interested in this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornell Concert Commission.--GrapedApe (talk) 04:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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DYK
Hello! I've reviewed both of the articles at Template:Did you know nominations/Sejm of the Estates. Great work on the articles. The first one is good to go, but there is a minor issue with the second article. Cheers,--xanchester (t) 17:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for the quick response. It's ready to go now. Both articles are well written, I enjoyed reading and reviewing them.--xanchester (t) 20:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Fumanekile Gqiba
Thanks for taking a look at the DYK nomination for Fumanekile Gqiba. I have responded to you at the DYK template: Template:Did you know nominations/Fumanekile Gqiba. Thanks again! NearTheZoo (talk) 03:04, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Sejm of the Estates
| On 10 November 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sejm of the Estates, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the partitions of Poland, on the lands of the Austrian partition, the Polish parliamentary tradition was continued first by the Sejm of the Estates and later, by the Sejm of the Land? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sejm of the Estates. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Sejm of the Land
| On 10 November 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sejm of the Land, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the partitions of Poland, on the lands of the Austrian partition, the Polish parliamentary tradition was continued first by the Sejm of the Estates and later, by the Sejm of the Land? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
The contents of article on Tadeusz Kościuszko.
Hello. Please be advised that the information, which continues to be inserted by Belarusian users in the said article, appears incorrect. I wanted to highlight same, but the changes were reverted only before applying protection. I've given my response & rationale in the Talk section on the page of user "Danton's Jacobin". As I'm not a registered user, I'd be obliged for your assistance in getting a neutral contents of that article. Thank you. 93.107.76.37 (talk) 19:58, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
The contents of article on Sonel.
Yellow Pages? OK, but can somebody show me Yellow Pages, where is company's history etc.? Or show me difference beetween the side about Sonel and the side about Megger or Fluke - for me, it's discrimination, that is the EN wikipedia's place for the British and US Companies, and there is no place for Polish company. (jagokogo) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagokogo (talk • contribs) 07:55, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your review of this DYK. Could you take another look? Thanks Illia Connell (talk) 20:40, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
You lost me on your concern. The lead to the article reads
The Lunar basalt 70017 is a moon rock gathered in 1972 by astronauts Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt on the Apollo 17 mission near their Apollo lunar lander from the valley of Taurus-Littrow on the moon.
Can you be more specific or reword your concern. I'll try to fix, if I knew what the problem is.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 23:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
What I mean is that this article should use the alt (1.1 gram) name in the lead, and that there should be a reference to at least one source that uses this term to refer to this rock. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
The lead to the article now reads
The Lunar basalt 70017 is a moon rock gathered in 1972 by astronauts Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt on the Apollo 17 mission near their Apollo lunar lander from the valley of Taurus-Littrow on the moon and divided into 1.1 gram pieces.
The DYK article Lunar basalt 70017 is supported by sources #1, #2, #3. Reference #2 of "Where are the Moon Rocks" says The Apollo 17 gift rocks are slightly larger and weigh about 1.1 grams. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:35, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
The hook has been changed to show Lunar basalt 70017. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Would it appropriate for you to remove now Please add alt name (used here) to the lead, reference it as the alt name, and ping me again for a re-review. Thanks!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Would you like to Review Apollo 11 lunar sample display also? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
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Ōtsu references
Piotrus -- thanks tremendously for your reorganization of the reference at Ōtsu, Shiga. I've never seen that arrangement and it'll declutter my future articles. Prburley (talk) 02:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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Silesia
I need you help and advice. My friend ask me for support. On the article 'Silesia' somebody, maybe even he created table expressing history of the land. I think it is good - very informative. There a two editors, Rsloch - it seems to me does not like the clear history in table since have an German nationalistic inclination. The table is nothing more than simplification and clarification of the text, but can be dislike by some who think Germans has any rights to this region. Second person is Dominus Vobisdu, who also has somewhat strange POV, probably only pretending to be an American. I do not think the table is any controversial, since the text is not contradicted - rather clarified. Could help?. I could start logical discussion, but I am not specializing in the Silesia subject, and the two people react very agresyvely. It does not promise resonable responds funded on logic.--Burham (talk) 19:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- I did not found any prohibitions or "bad style" indication regarding tables. Could enlighten me? Any way thank you for your writings.--Burham (talk) 18:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, I found one, but probably it is not what you would expect. It is in lead to article 'Table' :). But I will search further. Take for consideration the word 'pervasive' in this article. I learn to use table in my works also very early, since they are 'pervasive'. In complicated info it make subject clear and easy to remember. --Burham (talk) 22:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I will not copy results of my search regarding table in leads. It is TOO BIG. I ask you to read the results on my talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Burham#re:_Silesia--Burham (talk) 04:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Thus I understand that, although 1) there is no prohibitions regarding using tables in lead, 2) I show you that there exists many table types in lead, You figure out it is "common sense" not to use table in lead. Well I do not understand the so call "common sense". Any way thank you for exchange opinions. I will do what I consider the best for the reader - it mean clarifies the true, and expose blur demands and magnification nationalistic believes.--Burham (talk) 00:12, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
This Month in Education: November 2012
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Wikileaks
I understand and appreciate what you're doing here , but you've added about 30k of code to a 150k article, which will eventually crash its parsing (the article will give blue screens when trying to save edits). There is also a redlink in ref. 219. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 03:14, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sigh .. I hope you don't take all these developments close to heart. Yes, isolating refs from the text has pros and cons (many are not obvious; for example, the citation bot, which often runs semiautomatically, has an elevated chance of breaking refs if they are isolated into the reflists), and no reference system is preferred. It is always frustrating to have your time wasted over this, but this is wiki, and I've been reverted on that too :-D. Note that the code size is an important factor (server connection varies in space and time, even if you have a fast PC). You could likely reduce it in your cleanups by optimizing the reference names and fields - every minute detail is important if you work through an article with 300 refs. Materialscientist (talk) 04:49, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
- Loading time is nonlinear with the code size. It also depends not only on the nominal code size but also on the number and "weight" of transcluded templates, on the local connection speed, and the condition of wikimedia servers/databases; thus there is no clear "danger" threshold. Above about 170k the article becomes unmanageable for several reasons: (i) takes to long to load a diff and revert vandalism, as a result, editors often revert an edit which is already in the past (because of delay); (ii) saving an edit takes too long and gives a wikimedia blue screen; (iii) even experienced editors start breaking the code because their browser/server mishandles uploads. Materialscientist (talk) 05:18, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Semihemidemibarnstar
I am awarding you my semihemidemibarnstar
for suggesing that HotCat be more widely available. I didn't know why I had this capability when it appeared on pages I was recently editing. I've been editing some US military categories lately, and have found it very useful. Dziękujemy. Lineagegeek (talk) 17:03, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Nice editing on Tadeusz Kościuszko
Great job on the early life section, it looks amazing now! Now I see what they mean when they say when they took about Encyclopedia standards :-) I looked on how you edited the references to learn how to do it right! Danton's Jacobin (talk) 17:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK submission including a Gibraltar-related article
Piotrus, I wanted to let you know that, as your submission involves the island of Gibraltar, it will have to go into the special Gibraltar area and received two reviews along with all the other hooks about the island. I'll be moving it shortly. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:32, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
I rescued this from speedy A7. On the basis of my very elementary knowledge of Russian, he's both interesting and important, one of the Soviet Jews in the KGB who foolishly thought Stalin wouldn't turn on them. The Polish seems by far the better documented article, & I do not know Polish. Do you think you'd have time to work on it? DGG ( talk ) 04:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Arbitrary formatting changes
Please stop arbitrarily changing the formatting of references in articles. You've cited Wikipedia:Citing sources#Avoiding clutter on quite a few talk pages such as at Talk:United States, so I don't think I need to point out that it says that "articles should not undergo large scale conversion between formats without consensus to do so". Please stop trying to change the formatting without a consensus to do so. You've done this on a few dozen articles and have been reverted by multiple editors, please get a consensus before you try to do this on other articles. Thank you. - SudoGhost 00:58, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
You cannot change the formatting like you're doing, per Wikipedia:Citing sources#Avoiding clutter, the very thing you've been citing as cause to do it in the first place. If you continue to do so, it will be reverted, as it has been by multiple editors every time you do it. Every time you've started a discussion requesting a consensus to change the reference formatting, nobody has agreed with you. That doesn't mean just stop discussing and do it anyways. Drmies made a suggestion about starting a discussion in a centralized location; I think that's a good idea, and if there's a consensus for what you're doing then I won't blink an eye at it, but until then there's plenty of discussions pointing out why you shouldn't be making those edits, and the very guideline you're citing says not to do it as well. You've made bold edits and they've been reverted, and your guideline says not to do it in the first place unless there's a consensus; I think now would be a great time to discuss it somewhere centralized instead of keeping at it. I understand that you put work into changing the articles like this, but for the sake of everyone not wasting effort I think now it needs to be discussed since it's known that this is a disputed action. - SudoGhost 04:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Looking at Casimir Pulaski, it looks like all the other references are in the LDR format and had been since you changed it back in May, and that your change today was bringing others references added since then in line with this. Since it was changed months ago and the article has been worked on significantly since then it doesn't make sense change it back to the pre-LDR format. However, in the future please discuss it and get a consensus before making this change on any future articles. If that's what the consensus wants, I have absolutely no objections, but all I'm asking is that you follow the guideline you're citing, that's all. I can't revert my own edit since someone else edited it after that, and I don't want to mess up their edits too, so I don't know how you want to handle that, but I can mess with it and try to revert my edit, or if you want to do it I'm not going to undo it, just let me know if I need to undo it manually or something. - SudoGhost 05:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- Actually don't worry about it, I'm going manually combine your edit with his edits. - SudoGhost 05:41, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- ...and
Done. Would you mind double-checking it to make sure I didn't mess anything up? - SudoGhost 05:52, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- ...and
Kościuszko
Hi :-) That sounds good actually! I like what you suggested. The only thing is, I think the term Lithuanian should redirect to Lithuania and not to Lithuanians because when you look at his family tree you can see he actually probably didn't have any Lithuanian origins, as in the Baltic ethnicity. Danton's Jacobin (talk) 18:12, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- I edited some things in the Early Life section. Do you think how it looks now it's good enough? Danton's Jacobin (talk) 18:22, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- It makes sense, but I think we can actually use Belarusian nobility, because that's what actualy feets his definition. When you read it it fits perfect his family! I think Ruthenian origin is the only origin he had as far as we know (though I would not be surprised if he had a bit of Polish blood as well. It someone would write a work about his family tree that would be really interesting), but I'm pretty sure he didn't have Lithuanian roots. The reason is because in the Great Duchy Belarusians (or Ruthenians) were the majority, the offical language Ruthenian. Most of the ruling families in Lithuania came from Ruthenian origin (Chodkiewicz family, Sapieha family), so the Ruthenians didn't see the need to marry Lithuanians due to the fact they would not gain anything from that (it was different in the Commonwealth, where Ruthenian and Lithuanian noble families wanted to mix with Polish families due to the fact the Polish families had more prestige and power). Danton's Jacobin (talk) 19:46, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
That's quite true what you said, it needs work, but I still think it fits more, for the reason that the article Ruthenian nobility talks about all the Ruthenian nobility from the Great Duchy of Lithuania, which means Belarusian and Ukrainain. The article Belarusian nobility is more specific the geographic sense. What it talks about is the Ruthenian nobility which lived in Belarus: "Noble people on Belarusian lands (Belarusian: шляхта, szlachta) were usually of Slavic (Ruthenian) origin in the east or of Baltic (Lithuanian in historical context, Litvin) origin in the west of the lands of what is now Belarus.", which shows they are sensitive to the idea that back then those were Ruthenians living in Belarus (though those Ruthenians are now called Belarusian).
Though to be honest, I'm quite flexible about this issue because I think it's the same thing so whatever is used is fine :-) I don't think any ethnic group has so much problems with defenition like the Belarusians. After those lands were taken by the Great Duchy the Ukrainans and Belarusians were one group called Ruthenians, then they became Litvins, then Russia changed it to Belarusians, and the way they see themselves changed over the years. Most Belarusians today see Russia as the natural friend, but originaly they were actualy literally running the Great Duchy in the Lithuania and were an integrated part of the Commonwealth. Danton's Jacobin (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Ruthenian nobility
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WT:MED
WT:MED thread that relates to a student you are an ambassador for (I assume!). Best. Biosthmors (talk) 21:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Thread name nutrition transition. Biosthmors (talk) 21:41, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
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| This barnstar is awarded to User:Piotrus for his work improving the Tadeusz Kościuszko article. The article had a lot of revert wars between different groups trying to claim Kościuszko, and the quality of the article was far from what it should be, but through the efforts of Piotrus, who edited most of the article to look neutral and reliable in terms of what references to use, the article is getting really close to the FA level. Danton's Jacobin (talk) 23:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Place of Birth
Hi :-) Hope you are well! The funny part is, even in the Russian Wikipedia they have the Polish name is brackets, and in the Belarusian Wikipedia they don’t even have an article about this place. This place was a folwark near the town of Kosava. I found in some official websites in English from Belarus writing the area name as Merechevschina, the problem is, it’s actually how they pronounce it in Russian. The way to pronounce it in Belarusian would be Merachoushina, but when I write it like that on Wikipedia we get no results so I think we should take the Russian one due to the fact it’s the name even the Belarusians use (though I have to say, it’s irritating to think Belarusians say it like that because Belarusian was oppressed). Danton's Jacobin (talk) 12:07, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
- Done :-) Danton's Jacobin (talk) 12:15, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Slask
Drogi Piotrku, To jest po prostu latwizna wstawianie 'Template' zamiast zareagowac proporcionalnie do prawdy. Jezeli widzisz ze ktos ma racje nie dawaj mu dobrej rady tylko. Pomoz mu. W tym wypadku oczywiscie ja mam racje co mozesz stwierdzic z historii edycji. Burham juz sie z Toba skontaktowal o ile wiem i stwierdzil ze nie moze byc w 'lead' wbrew temu co mu przepowiadales. Wprowadzi tez restukturyzacje artykulu zeby tabela byla nie w 'lead'. Nadal to sie niepodoba tym dwu osobnikom, ktorzynie maja argumentu, za to powoluja sie na jakis MAGIC CONSUSUS. Ty robisz to samo to jest werecz niegrzeczne. Nowi uzytkownicy potrzebuja pomocy np. icony gdzie mozna natychmiast zglosic zlosliwych uzytkownikow. Administratorzy powinni byc pomocni w szczegolach tj. skierowac do odpowiedniej sekcji regul a nie ogolnikow. To 'template' ktore zamiesciles na 'TALK page' prowadzi tylko do mojej flustracji na administratorow takich jak TY, ktorym wydaje sie ze cos robia a w rezultacie denerwuja tylko potencialnych edytorow przez niescisle i ogolnikowe "rady". Prosze Cie zebys przeczytal co napisalem i zrobil cos z propozycjami jakie tu zamiescilem. Natychmiastowe Zgloszenie Icon i aktywacji kolegow administratorow do dokladnych informacji (paragrafy, a nie strony ogolniki - stron ktorych sami nie znaja). Z powazaniem--174.114.58.205 (talk) 18:33, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Ruthenian nobility
| On 23 November 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ruthenian nobility, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ruthenian nobility became increasingly polonized with time? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ruthenian nobility. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Missing articles
I have a reason why i'm responding only here (where we can continue). The tool is here. It isn't the most perfect tool for searching missing articles, but at least for me it is good enough. But sometimes it doesn't work with some Wikipedia or category and it maybe won't get data from big cats (like Category:Living people). So enjoy! --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 19:36, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, it has great potentinal. Over time, I'll look at filling in the gaps for missing Polish films, actor and director articles. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:59, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
WRN
Regarding : March would indeed have been a bit further back than our usual scope, but if it has only just been published, why not. Perhaps it can even be combined with the coverage of his other paper. BTW, your other texts are now at the draft page, thanks! Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 20:53, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
1919-1921 Sejm
I've issued a definite "no chance of passage" statement at Template:Did you know nominations/Legislative Sejm (Second Polish Republic) — more than five days passed between expansion and nomination. That being said, I'd really like to see it included, anyway: you missed the deadline by only about three hours, so I've asked at WT:DYK that the rules be bent for this one. Nyttend (talk) 22:15, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Sulima Uprising
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Himmler
No need to expand here as if the Slavic victims were somehow not as important. Tobby72 (talk) 15:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
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The review has been completed, the article passed. I've been a bit busy since mid-month with other things, and was unavailable for a few days last week, but my lateness was far from acceptable and I apologize for it. dci | TALK 02:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
College and university dating
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Christmas in Mexico
I used to do that a lot, but now I find it to be a chore and rather spend my time writing articles than arguing over little changes 15 people want before it has the "honor" of being on the front page at the bottom for six hours.Thelmadatter (talk) 17:39, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello
Do you happen to know how User talk:NehemiahAnkoor's class is being graded? Is part of it based off of article length? Biosthmors (talk) 17:16, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 03 December 2012
- News and notes: Wiki Loves Monuments announces 2012 winner
The global jury of Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM), the world’s largest photo contest, announced its results on 3 December.
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- Technology report: MediaWiki problems but good news for Toolserver stability
Deployments of MediaWiki 1.21wmf5 cause widespread problems for users across wikis when HTML and CSS updates came temporarily out of sync. On the first wikis targeted for deployment, this was caused by the different cache invalidation rates for HTML (typically one month) and CSS (typically five minutes). The retrospective on the problem highlighted the fact that that the test wiki – the WMF's answer to a production environment that individual developers can no longer practically emulate themselves – actually demonstrated the exact problem that would later manifest itself on production wikis. It went unnoticed.
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DYK nomination of Human rights movement
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Bugle interview
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DYK for Produsage
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Credit for photograph
Hello, My name is Hannah, and I am a student worker at the Joseph Moore Museum at Earlham College in Richmond Indiana. I am working on a display on honey bee dance language for the museum, and would like to use your photograph "Red flower alongside a road." What name should I attribute the photograph to? I would be happy to send you a copy of the finished product if you would be interested in seeing it. Thanks! Hannah Rose hbrose12@earlham.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.28.32.114 (talk) 19:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- I assume you refer to File:Red flower alongside a road.JPG. You do not need to ask for my permission as the file is using a free license, but thanks for asking anyway :) You can use my nickname Piotrus. Please observe the requirements of a free license (as in, you'll need to state that the image is freely licensed in addition to attributing me). See more at commons:Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Magnates
<sigh> I know. I am editing in 10-minute chunks. While there is tons of books on the subject, I think I let the experts do this. My goal was to disambig "magnate". By the way, among nearly thousand links to magnate I bet 90% are about Polsih ones. Is it worth of effort to make page moves? Staszek Lem (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- P.S. not to say that with my skills it is better to write about obscure subjects, such as Złota Tarka. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Lux Veritatis
Napisałem mały stubik o fundacji, ale chyba wiele takich jest na en-wiki. Nie za bardzo rozumiem, dlaczego miałby być usunięty. Nie wiem również, którego z kryteriów Fundacja nie spełnia, ponadto nie wiem, gdzie dyskutować na ten temat i w związku z tym co poprawić. Strony en-wiki linkowały do Fundacji Lux Veritatis zanim powstał ten artykuł, gdyby nie to nigdy do głowy by mi nie przyszło pisać. Ale jak już napisałem, to proszę nie usuwać. Wizikj (talk) 22:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Ale ta organizacja nie ma statusu Non-profit. Wizikj (talk) 00:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Spiegelman's use of pigs
Hi. There's an editor at the Maus FAC who would like stronger evidence that calling someone a pig in Poland is a stronger insult than it is in the US. Could we get your input? CüRlyTüRkeyTalkContribs 21:47, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
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The Sources for the Prusi Article
Hi so I've found some more reliable sources for the Prusi Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prusi , and I was wondering I you can help with how to do the citations using the Wikipedia system. Just tell me ho to cite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.195.192.15 (talk) 16:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
- Please see the various guides at WP:CITE. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Advice Polack
Hi Piotrus, could you help with Talk:Advice Polack#Identity of person responsible. I am concerned I am missing something in translation. John Vandenberg (chat) 12:34, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 10 December 2012
- News and notes: Wobbly start to ArbCom election, but turnout beats last year's
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Ways to improve First Battle of Warsaw (1794)
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Königsberg
Piotr, I'm in danger of getting really annoyed with Volunteer/Marek over his POV editing of Königsberg. Any suggestions? Sca (talk) 15:18, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello, just letting you know I removed the prod from the above article as it was previously proposed for deletion. Thank you. Rotten regard 18:42, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion of Downtango
Hi there, Piotrus
Thank you for your message. Yes, I am a newcomer here, but I checked out all the guidelines before submitting my first pages. I will go through them again, though, since with every edit I see that writing Wikipedia articles is not exactly a piece of cake.
Anyway, I do not really see how the Downtango thing is less notable than, say, GetRight which has an article on Wikipedia. Could you elaborate?
Thanks, Epater (talk) 15:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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Category Freemasons proposed deletion
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DYK nomination of First Battle of Warsaw (1794)
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The Signpost: 17 December 2012
- News and notes: Arbitrator election: stewards release the results
Seven days after the close of voting, the results of the recent Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) elections have been announced by two of the four stewards overseeing the election, Mardetanha and Pundit. Of the 21 candidates, 13 managed to gain positive support-to-oppose ratios, and the top eight will be appointed to two-year terms on the committee by Jimbo Wales, exercising one of his traditional responsibilities.
- WikiProject report: WikiProjekt Computerspiel: Covering Computer Games in Germany
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- Discussion report: Concise Wikipedia; section headings for navboxes
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- Op-ed: Finding truth in Sandy Hook
This week's big story on the English Wikipedia is obviously the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting (which, by the time you read this, may be renamed 2012 Connecticut school shooting). Quickly created and nominated for deletion not once but twice, and both times speedily kept, the article saw the expected flurry of edits (a look at the history suggests an average of at least one a minute over the first day and a half) and more than half a million page views on the first full day.
- Featured content: Wikipedia's cute ass
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- Technology report: MediaWiki groups and why you might want to start snuggling newbie editors
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Battle of Żownin
That was actually a mistake... should have passed on Coverage and Accuracy. Is now fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrigidNinja (talk • contribs) 20:38, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Battle of Żownin
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- I'd be more than happy to help you copyedit the article. Please let me know if the alternate hook I wrote is acceptable. Thanks, caknuck ° needs to be running more often 08:35, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 24 December 2012
- News and notes: Debates on Meta sparking along—grants, new entities, and conflicts of interest
As part of its new focus on core responsibilities, the Wikimedia Foundation is reforming its grant schemes so that they are more accessible to individual volunteers. The community is invited to look at proposals for a new scheme—for now called Individual engagement grants (IEGs)—which is due to kick off on January 15. On Meta, the community is once again debating the two new offline participation models—user groups (open membership groups designed to be easy to form) and thematic organizations (incorporated non-profits representing the Wikimedia movement and supporting work on a specific theme within or across countries). In a consultation process on Meta that will last until January 15, the community will be discussing WMF proposals for a new guideline on conflicts of interests concerning Wikimedia resources. The draft covers COI issues for both volunteers and organizations across the movement.
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- Featured content: Battlecruiser operational
Seven articles and two lists were promoted to 'featured' status this week, including List of battlecruisers. The article covers all of the battlecruisers—which were a type of warship similar in size to a battleship but with several defining characteristics—ever planned or constructed. The last British battlecruiser built, HMS Hood, is pictured at right.
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Thanks
Thanks for this edit. For the life of me, I just could not figure out how to word it correctly. From you edit, I now seem my mistake (not focusing on the holder term). Happy editing. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 16:11, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Human rights movement
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thanks for the welcome!
Hi Piotrus
thanks for the kind welcome, the creation of my user page, and the guidance and offer of help - much appreciated! I'm currently just doing basic copyediting at the moment, but hope to do something more constructive down the line Jj in sydney (talk) 12:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Reki Kawahara as a notable author?
I do not wish to criticize your actions, but your recent edit to the Accel World page, linking Reki Kawahara with the reason that Kawahara is a notable author seems a bit off to me. Could you please, if it is not too much effort, explain to me as to why you believe that Kawahara is notable? As far as I am aware, he has also written the Sword Art Online Light Novel, but I personally doubt that he is notable enough for that sole reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CuleX (talk • contribs) 13:02, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Replying to your reply ("I think he is notable, in fact I will stub him right now :) Reason being, he is a published author of several recognized works, some of which even got adapted for TV (anime). See also WP:AUTHOR. PS. He also has article on ja, de, fr and chinese wikis."), I would say that having articles on any wiki but ja alone makes him notable enough. I would like to deeply apologize for forgetting to sign my previous post as well; I am a rather oblivious man. CuleX (Talk | Contribs) 14:47, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Belarusian nobility
Just a heads up; in your nomination rationale you say I think this article should be deleted and redirected but of course that's not possible. I agreed with your nomination and !voted accordingly, however it's not entirely clear what it is you wish to do with the article. It would be a good idea to clarify that before the AfD closes. Cheers! §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:48, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Battle of Żownin
Good day! I completed my copyedit of Battle of Żownin and signed off on the DYK nom. Thanks, caknuck ° needs to be running more often 00:58, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
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JPL engineers and managers
Leaving the requested ping to let you know that Template:Did you know nominations/Jack James (rocket engineer) is ready for another look. I still need to do the QPQ reviews of another DYK nomination, but am waiting until I know if I have to do one or two. Carcharoth (talk) 23:27, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- I'm still a bit stuck on the precise wording of the hook. What I am going to do is do two DYK reviews tomorrow, and then, if you don't mind, I will post to WT:DYK to flag up the second article that needs a review (as that is easy to miss) and see if anyone else is willing to come up with a better hook. Carcharoth (talk) 02:38, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
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Siege of Zbarazh
I started reviewing the above article. I find that the hook text is not specifically referenced in the article. The last section could mention the dates. I have done some minor editing.--Nvvchar. 05:01, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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DYK for Cyber Terror Response Center
| On 2 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cyber Terror Response Center, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the South Korean Cyber Terror Response Center raided Korean Google offices over concerns about Google Street View? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cyber Terror Response Center. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The Signpost: 31 December 2012
- From the editor: Wikipedia, our Colosseum
In the impersonal, detached Colosseum that is Wikipedia, people find it much easier to put their thumbs down. As such, many people active in the Wikimedia movement have witnessed a precipitous decline in civil discourse. This is far from a new trend, yet many people would agree that it all seemed somehow worse in 2012.
- In the media: Is the Wikimedia movement too 'cash rich'?
A recent, poorly researched and poorly written story in the Register highlighted the perceived "cash rich" status of the Wikimedia movement. ... The Telegraph and Daily Dot, among others, have alleged that there are multiple links between the WMF, Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales, and Kazakhstan's government, which is, for all intents and purposes, a one-party non-democratic state.
- News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser a success; Czech parliament releases photographs to chapter
On 27 December the Wikimedia Foundation announced the conclusion of their ninth annual fundraiser, which attracted more than 1.2 million donors. The appeal reached its goal of US$25 million, even though fundraising banners ran for only nine days.
- Technology report: Looking back on a year of incremental changes
In the first of two features, the Signpost this week looks back on 2012, a year when developers finally made inroads into three issues that had been put off for far too long (the need for editors to learn wiki-markup, the lack of a proper template language and the centralisation of data) but left all three projects far from finished.
- Discussion report: Image policy and guidelines; resysopping policy
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include ...
- Interview: Interview with Brion Vibber, the WMF's first employee
Brion Vibber has been a Wikipedia editor for nearly 11 years and was the first person officially hired to work for the Wikimedia Foundation. He was instrumental in early development of the MediaWiki software and is now the lead software architect for the foundation's mobile development team.
- Featured content: Whoa Nelly! Featured content in review
At the beginning of the year, we began a series of interviews with editors who have worked hard to combat systemic bias through the creation of featured content; although we haven't seen six installments yet, we've also had some delightful interviews with people who write articles on some of our most core topics. Now, as we close the year, I would like to present some of my own musings on the state of featured content—especially as it pertains to systemic bias and core topics.
- WikiProject report: New Year, New York
This week, we're celebrating the New Year from Times Square by interviewing WikiProject New York City. Since December 2004, WikiProject NYC has had the difficult task of maintaining articles about the largest city in the United States, many of which are also among the the most viewed articles on Wikipedia. The project is home to 22 Featured Articles, 7 Featured Lists, 32 pieces of Featured Media, and a lengthy list of Did You Know? entries.
- Recent research: Wikipedia and Sandy Hook; SOPA blackout reexamined
Northeastern University researcher Brian Keegan analyzed the gathering of hundreds of Wikipedians to cover the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy. ... A First Monday article reviews several aspects of the Wikipedia participation in the 18 January 2012, protests against SOPA and PIPA legislation in the USA. The paper focuses on the question of legitimacy, looking at how the Wikipedia community arrived at the decision to participate in those protests.
Milhist
Piotr, I haven't seen you around Milhist as much since I started an argument with you about your comments about referencing. If I contributed to making reviewing unpleasant, I'm very sorry, and I'd like to see you back, soon. You're one of our best editors on Eastern European topics. - Dank (push to talk) 17:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Henri Brocard
Just a reminder that Talk:Henri Brocard/GA1 is still open. AIRcorn (talk) 11:00, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
- You were looking at the wrong instructions. Left details at WT:GAR. AIRcorn (talk) 12:21, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
- Asked at the source AIRcorn (talk) 04:43, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Pytanie
Cześć Piotr, czy mogę się Ciebie poradzić w sprawie artykułu o Polsce na en-Wiki? Napisałem kilka dni temu artykuł na polskiej Wikipedii o pomnikach granic getta ] Jak sądzisz, czy jest on dostatecznie ency i byłby ciekawy dla anglosaskiego czytelnika? Mógłbym go w całości przetłumaczyć na angielski. Zauważyłem, że te pomniki i tablice budzą bardzo duże zainteresowanie osób z Polski i zagranicy, zwłaszcza jeżeli ktoś interesuje się II wojną światową. Natomiast ich lokalizacja, nawet w obrębie jednego upamiętnienia (ludzie dostrzegają tablice, ale przeoczają już żeliwne płyty w chodniku, albo odwrotnie) to czasem małe wyzwanie, i nie wszyscy zdają sobie sprawę, że jest to fragment większego projektu. Z góry dzięki za odpowiedź. Pozdrawiam serdecznie z Ursynowa --Boston999 (talk) 18:10, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Hej, dzięki. Podeślę Ci link, jak będzie gotowe. 3maj się, --Boston999 (talk) 22:22, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Withering away of the state
| On 5 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Withering away of the state, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in Marxism, withering away of the state is the process which should lead to a stateless communist utopia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Withering away of the state. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
DYK - Stanislaw Barcewicz
Thanks, Piotr. I'm aware of DYK, and have had a fair few, the last one in June.
One reason I've not been active in DYK since then is the rule that an editor has to earn the right to self-nominate, by first reviewing a certain number of other editors' nominations.
But that rule seems to be no longer in place. Am I right in saying it's no longer a rule? -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 19:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Sikorski's death controversy
| On 8 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sikorski's death controversy, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 1943 death of the Polish government in exile leader, general Władysław Sikorski, led to a number of conspiracy theories? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
DYK for 1943 Gibraltar B-24 crash
| On 8 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 1943 Gibraltar B-24 crash, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 1943 death of the Polish government in exile leader, general Władysław Sikorski, led to a number of conspiracy theories? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Sam Ficken
Cats added. Spasibo. Buggie111 (talk) 21:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 07 January 2013
- Op-ed: Meta, where innovative ideas die
Meta is the wiki that has coordinated a wide range of cross-project Wikimedia activities, such as the activities of stewards, the archiving of chapter reports, and WMF trustee elections. The project has long been an out-of-the-way corner for technocratic working groups, unaccountable mandarins, and in-house bureaucratic proceedings. Largely ignored by the editing communities of projects such as Wikipedia and organizations that serve them, Meta has evolved into a huge and relatively disorganized repository, where the few archivists running it also happen to be the main authors of some of its key documents. While Meta is well-designed for supporting the librarians and mandarins who stride along its corridors, visitors tend to find the site impenetrable—or so many people have argued over the past decade. This impenetrability runs counter to Meta's increasingly central role in the Wikimedia movement.
- WikiProject report: Where Are They Now? Episode IV: A New Year
The dawning of a new year offers both a fresh slate and an opportunity to revisit our previous adventures. 2012 marked the fifth anniversary of the WikiProject Report and was the column's most productive year with 52 articles published. In addition to sharing the experiences of Wikipedia's many active projects, we expanded our scope to highlight unique projects from other languages of Wikipedia, and tracked down all of the former editors-in-chief of the Signpost for an introspective interview ... While last year's "Summer Sports Series" may have drawn yawns from some readers, a special report on "Neglected Geography" elicited more comments than any previous issue of the Report. Following in the footsteps of our past three recaps, we'll spend this week looking back at the trials and tribulations of the WikiProjects we encountered in 2012. Where are they now?
- News and notes: 2012—the big year
The past 12 months have seen a multitude of issues and events in the Wikimedia foundation, the movement at large, and the English Wikipedia. The movement, now in its second decade, is growing apace in its international reach, cultural and linguistic diversity, technical development, and financial complexity; and many factors have combined to produce what has in many ways been the biggest, most dynamic year in the movement's history. Looking back at 2012, we faced a difficult task in doing justice to all of the notable events in a single article; so the Signpost has selected just a few examples from outside the anglosphere, from the English Wikipedia, and from the Wikimedia Foundation, rather than attempting to cover every detail that happened.
- Featured content: Featured content in review
Over the past year, 963 pieces of featured content were promoted. The most active of the featured content programs was featured article candidates (FAC), which promoted an average of 31 articles a month. This was followed by featured picture candidates (FPC; 28 a month). Coming in third was featured list candidates (FLC; 20 a month). Featured topic and featured portal candidates remained sluggish, each promoting fewer than 20 items over the year.
- Technology report: Looking ahead to 2013
Following on from last week's reflections on 2012, this week the Technology report looks ahead to 2013, a year that will almost certainly be dominated by the juggernauts of Wikidata, Lua and the Visual Editor.
DYK for Siege of Zbarazh
| On 10 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Siege of Zbarazh, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the Siege of Zbarazh the Polish-Lithuanian army withstood the assaults of the Cossack and Tatar army about twenty times its own size? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Siege of Zbarazh. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Non-free newspaper cover

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If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Battle of Żownin
| On 11 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Battle of Żownin, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the Battle of Żownin, Cossack forces constructed a bridge under the cover of darkness to relocate their camp? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Żownin. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graphs: thank you & questions
Hi Piotrus, Thanks for the graphs on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology. I have simple questions for each regarding what exactly we are seeing. The questions are on the respective talk pp. of the three graphs. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 15:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your clarifications! Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 20:36, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Ely and Littleport riots of 1816
Hi. Thank you for your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ely and Littleport riots of 1816/archive2 which were very much appreciated. I opened the review on 30 December. One of the reviewers suggested changing the article title which I arranged on 6 January 2013. I'm not sure how you found the review but I suspect something is broken arising out of the move. I have requested the mover help me fix it. After it is fixed, I will respond to your excellent comments --Senra (talk) 22:49, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Just in case you are surprised to see other comments appear before yours on this page: the article was recently moved from Ely and Littleport riots 1816 and there were earlier comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ely and Littleport riots 1816/archive2 (wihout the "of"). Senra asked me for help and I decided the simplest solution was to copy your comment to the bottom of the old page and move the whole thing to the new title. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:58, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Battle of Dubienka
Hello! Your submission of Battle of Dubienka at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Constantine ✍ 14:29, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

The article Radical Pedagogy has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Non-notable moribund journal. No independent sources, not listed in any selective database. Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NJournals.
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Wikipedia Ambassadors update
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Finally, whether or not you work with any classes this term, I encourage you to post entries to the Trophy Case whenever you see excellent work from students or if you have great examples from past semesters. And, as always, let students (and other editors!) know when they do things well; a little WikiLove goes a long way!
This Month in Education: January 2013
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The Signpost: 14 January 2013
- Investigative report: Ship ahoy! New travel site finally afloat
After six years without creating a new class of content projects, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has finally expanded into a new area: travel. Wikivoyage was formally launched—though without a traditional ship's christening—on 15 January, having started as a beta trial on 10 November. Wikivoyage has been taken under the WMF's umbrella on the argument that information resources that help with travel are educational and therefore within the scope of the foundation's mission.g
- News and notes: Launch of annual picture competition, new grant scheme
On January 16, voting for the first round of the 2012 Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year contest will begin. Wikimedia editors with 75 edits or one project are eligible to vote to select their favorite image featured in 2012. ... On January 15, the foundation launched its latest grant scheme, called Individual Engagement Grants (IEG).
- WikiProject report: Reach for the Stars: WikiProject Astronomy
This week, we set off for the final frontier with WikiProject Astronomy. The project was started in August 2006 using the now-defunct WikiProject Space as inspiration. WikiProject Astronomy is home to 101 pieces of Featured material and 148 Good Articles maintained by a band of 186 members. The project maintains a portal, works on an assortment of vital astronomy articles, and provides resources for editors adding or requesting astronomy images.
- Discussion report: Flag Manual of Style; accessibility and equality
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- Special report: Loss of an Internet genius
Comforting those grieving after the loss of a loved one is an impossible task. How then, can an entire community be comforted? The Internet struggled to answer that question this week after the suicide of Aaron Swartz, a celebrated free-culture activist, programmer, and Wikipedian at the age of 26.
- Featured content: Featured articles: Quality of reviews, quality of writing in 2012
Continuing our recap of the featured content promoted in 2012, this week the Signpost interviewed three editors, asking them about featured articles which stuck out in their minds. Two, Ian Rose and Graham Colm, are current featured article candidates (FAC) delegates, while Brian Boulton is an active featured article writer and reviewer.
- Arbitration report: First arbitration case in almost six months
The opening of the Doncram case marks the end of almost 6 months without any open cases, the longest in the history of the Committee.
- Technology report: Intermittent outages planned, first Wikidata client deployment
The Wikidata client extension was successfully deployed to the Hungarian Wikipedia on 14 January, its team reports. The interwiki language links can now come from wikidata.org, though "manual" interwiki links remain functional, overriding those from the central repository.
DYK for Battle of Dubienka
| On 16 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Battle of Dubienka, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that at the Battle of Dubienka, Tadeusz Kościuszko repulsed an attack from Imperial Russian Army forces five times the size of his own? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Dubienka. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Dyngus Day
I wonder if you would be interested in collaborating on an article on Dyngus Day? I've made a start at User:Prioryman/Dyngus Day but if there's anything you can add from Polish-language sources that would be much appreciated. Prioryman (talk) 00:30, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- That should probably be under Śmigus-dyngus. Although it may be the case that "Dyngus Day" is the Polish-American version of the Polish-Polish Smigus-Dyngus day. Also, I'm not sure who this Melton fellah is, but the water-pouring (that's the "smigus" part) is not limited to guys doing it to girls (if anything, it's supposed to be the opposite!) - but generally, the water-pouring is done to anyone who doesn't pay a "ransom" (that's the "dyngus" part, which may be a German connection). Often it's a way for kids to get candy or treats from their parents and relatives. Melton's probably talking about some particular regional variety or something. I'm also pretty sure that there was no Slavic diety named "Dyngus" (definitely not "Dygnus"), although Polish Wikipedia says that some 16th century writer put a "Dyngus" in a "List of Devils from Poland".Volunteer Marek 01:06, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice! I've added a lot more info to the article, so please feel free to take a look and give some feedback if you wish. I've taken out about the bit about the deity, as I've not been able to verify it from other sources. Prioryman (talk) 18:17, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, it would be helpful if you could check the Polish text I added - you guys use a lot more accented characters than I have on my keyboard. :-) Prioryman (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- You missed a single dash, but other than that the Polish text's good. One thing you should be careful with is the poems. I don't have the book by Silverman, but there's some chance that these may be copyrighted, in which case the translations would be copyrighted as well. If these are folk poems/songs and PD then there's no problem. On the other hand, if these are Silverman's translations that could be a copyvio as well (I'm not 100% sure ow it would work in this case). Without seeing the original, the translations make sense.Volunteer Marek 19:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- They're quoted from a 1951 book (the Sula Benet source cited in the article) and yes, they're folk poems. Prioryman (talk) 19:37, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- The thing is, the translation could be copyrighted, even if the original is in public domain.Volunteer Marek 19:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, the translation would be copyrighted. I believe it is the usual thing - the copyright lasts 70 years after the translator's death. Sigh. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:40, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- However, if you have the original Polish folk PD text of the poem you could do your own PD translation (or me or Piotrus could do it) and that would not be copyrighted. It's a little silly but that's how it works. It's like if there's some data out there and somebody makes a chart of it and puts it in a book. You can't take the chart from their book and put it in Wikipedia, it's copyrighted. But you can take the underlying data, put it in Excel and make your own chart, and put that in Wikipedia. Same sort of thing.Volunteer Marek 18:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, the translation would be copyrighted. I believe it is the usual thing - the copyright lasts 70 years after the translator's death. Sigh. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:40, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- The thing is, the translation could be copyrighted, even if the original is in public domain.Volunteer Marek 19:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- They're quoted from a 1951 book (the Sula Benet source cited in the article) and yes, they're folk poems. Prioryman (talk) 19:37, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
COOP
Hi Piotrus. I noticed your participation on the COOP project and that you have an impressive number of GA/FA articles. I am trying to adopt the practice of standardizing on GA-quality work where I have a COI and wondered if I might request your services from time to time to provide feedback on articles that I want to bring up to GA, but may not be quite ready yet. CorporateM (Talk) 15:53, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- It's not in article-space yet, but I think this proposed draft is getting close to GA. One of my concerns is that in order to follow DGG's feedback to add a detailed version history, I had to use some iffy sources like conference papers, but they may actually be very appropriate sources for the topic and given what they are used for. I am on the fence about it.
- The original draft was promotional, so we actually dialed it back to something more neutral. ;-)
- Of course your welcome to comment on the request for article-space as well as what it still needs to be GA ready if you have an interest in doing so. One thing I want to do better is finding editors that have a genuine interest in the area I'm working on, so it's less of a burden for them to collaborate. CorporateM (Talk) 17:06, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. I'm also working on one on a social media management software, but not sure if that's close enough to your area of interest; being on the sociology rather than marketing and technology end of things. CorporateM (Talk) 21:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- This is the social media management software I was referring to. It's hard to avoid promotionalism when the article is a product. I'd welcome any thoughts on what it needs to reach a GA mark if you have time and interest. CorporateM (Talk) 13:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Poverty in South Korea
| On 23 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Poverty in South Korea, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that while the poverty in South Korea, particularly the absolute poverty, has significantly declined since mid-20th century, relative poverty has recently risen? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Poverty in South Korea. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013
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The Signpost: 21 January 2013
- News and notes: Requests for adminship reform moves forward
The English Wikipedia's requests for adminship (RfA) process has entered another cycle of proposed reforms. Over the last three weeks, various proposals, ranging from as large as a transition to a representative democracy to as small as a required edit count and service length, have been debated on the RfA talk page. The total number of new administrators for 2012 was just 28, barely more than half of 2011's total and less than a quarter of 2009's total. The total number of unsuccessful RfAs has fallen as well. These declining numbers, which were described in what would now be considered a successful year (2010) as an emerging "wikigeneration gulf", have been coupled with a sharp decline in the number of active administrators since February 2008 (1,021), reaching a low of 653 in November 2012.
- WikiProject report: Say What? — WikiProject Linguistics
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Linguistics. Started in January 2004, the project has grown to include 7 Featured Articles, 4 Featured Lists, 2 A-class Articles, and 15 Good Articles maintained by 43 members. The project's members keep an eye on several watchlists, maintain the linguistics category, and continue to build a collection of Did You Know? entries. The project is home to six task forces and works with WikiProject Languages and WikiProject Writing Systems.
- Featured content: Wazzup, G? Delegates and featured topics in review
This week, the Signpost's featured content section continues its recap of 2012 by looking at featured topics. We interviewed Grapple X and GamerPro64, who are delegates at the featured topic candidates.
- Arbitration report: Doncram case continues
The opening of the Doncram case marks the end of almost 6 months without any open cases, the longest in the history of the Committee.
- Technology report: Data centre switchover a tentative success
On 22 January, WMF staff and contractors switched incoming, non-cached requests (including edits) to the Foundation's newer data centre in Ashburn, Virginia, making it responsible for handling almost all regular traffic. For the first time since 2004, virtually no traffic will be handled by the WMF's other facility in Tampa, Florida.
DYK for Welfare in South Korea
| On 24 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Welfare in South Korea, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that while spending on welfare in South Korea has been growing, it is still among the lowest of the OECD countries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Welfare in South Korea. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Franciszek Lewiński
Hello, I would like to really get hold of the person who added the article below on wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_National_Government_(November_Uprising)
I have noticed that my great grandfather is listed here and his name is a link, but when I click on his name there appears to be no further information on him. I am really interested in finding out more about Franciszek Lewiński and would like to contact the author of this article to see if they can help me in my genealogical enquiry. Franciszek Lewiński was my great grand-father I would be everso greatful if your help would lead me to further information on him.
I thank you very kindly and look forward to hopefully receiving contact details (e.g. email address) for the author.
Thank you Paul Lewinski
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_National_Government_(November_Uprising)
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> Polish National Government (November Uprising)
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> Polish National Government of 1831 was a Polish supreme authority during
November Uprising against Russian occupation of Poland. It was created by the
decree of the Sejm of the Congress Poland on 29 January 1831 to assume the
competences of the Polish head of state in the aftermath of another decree - of 25
January - deposing tsar Nicholas I of Russia from the throne of Poland.
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> The government concentrated on the issues related to the fight with the Russian
Empire. In August the government of prince Adam Jerzy Czartoryski resigned facing
loss of support and radicalization among Warsavians and Czartoryski was replaced
by Jan Krukowiecki. After capitulation of Warsaw the government was taken over by
Bonawentura Niemojowski. After the government went into exile, it passed its
powers to general Maciej Rybiński.
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> Presidents:
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> a.. prince Adam Czartoryski 30 January-17 August 1831
> b.. Jan Krukowiecki 17 August-7 September 1831
> c.. Bonawentura Niemojowski 7 September-25 September 1831
> d.. general Maciej Rybiński 25 September-9 October 1831 (not a president per
se, but a legal successor)
> Others:
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> a.. Stanisław Barzykowski
> b.. Alojzy Biernacki
> c.. Aleksander Bniński
> d.. Leon Dembowski
> e.. Kajetan Garbiński
> f.. Antoni Gliszczyński
> g.. Andrzej Horodyski
> h.. Joachim Lelewel
> i.. Franciszek Lewiński
> j.. Gustaw Małachowski
> k.. Teodor Morawski
> l.. Izydor Krasiński
> m.. Teofil Morawski
> n.. Franciszek Morawski
> o.. Wincenty Niemojowski
> p.. Andrzej Plichta
> q.. Wiktor Rembieliński
> r.. Jan Olrych Szaniecki
> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.76.101 (talk) 18:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- Dear Paul. Wikipedia articles have many authors. You can see them in the history tab (see Wikipedia:Article history) and through this useful tool: . I have just translated some information from the Polish Wikipedia article; you can see who the authors were there in a similar fashion. While Polish Wikipedia has a better coverage of Polish topis, it still does not have an entry for Franciszek Lewiński. You can find some information in books (see ), and your best best may be the corresponding entry from the Polski Słownik Biograficzny (my list at User:Piotrus/List_of_Poles/Krzesinski-Lichtarowicz indicates he has an entry there). If you obtain a scan of his entry and sent it to me, I could try to write up an English bio for him; otherwise I am not sure when I will have an opportunity to obtain it myself (I already have a long to-do list). You could also contact somebody who has access to PSB, such as User:Picus viridis, through note that Wikipedians are not your friendly neighborhood librarians and we don't really fulfill requests other than for people who intend to contribute to Wikipedia (so if you don't intend to write for Wikipedia, I'd suggest you use an interlibrary loan or such to obtain the PSB entry). I hope this helps. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Virut
| On 27 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Virut, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in January 2013 the cybercrime Virut botnet was partially taken down through the actions of the Polish domain registrar, NASK? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Virut. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Warsaw Ghetto boundary markers
Cześć Piotr, w nawiązaniu do naszej wcześniejszej rozmowy - skończyłem tłumaczenie tego artykułu. Posłuchaj, czy mógłbym mieć do Ciebie serdeczną prośbę? Mógłbyś zerknąć . Czy według Ciebie wygląda mniej więcej OK? To mój pierwszy taki artykuł na en-Wiki. Z góry serdeczne dzięki za pomoc i wszystkie uwagi--Boston999 (talk) 09:28, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Hej, dzięki - opublikowane. Masz rację, ale artykuł jest raczej nietypowy, bo dotyczy zbioru pomników, trudno jest opisać to inaczej. Co do źródeł, to wszystko ma potwierdzenie w 100% w fundamentalnej pracy Engelking i Leociaka o warszawskim getcie i w dołączonych do niej 3 mapach, no i w oryginalnej treści samych tablic, opublikowanych w pozycji bibliografii #2. Cytowanie kilkanaście razy tej książki IMHO nie wyglądałoby zbyt dobrze. Dlatego nie będę zgłaszał do DYI, wielkie dzięki za tę sugestię. Zastanawiam się jeszcze - jeżeli artykuł jest w 95% tłumaczeniem z pl-Wiki, ale to ja jestem jego autorem, to czy powinienem na en-Wiki umieścić template Translated page?--Boston999 (talk) 17:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

The article Joel M. Charon has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. -- Patchy1 10:38, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
September Eleven 1683
Hello, I was wondering if you would reconsider this comment; I think it is bitey. Would you mind withdrawing it? I've already messaged the editor to explain WP:NF and WP:GNG. Erik (talk | contribs) 20:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Sigh. :) I have to say I don't think that tone works either. The IP has not commented since, so I think it is unfair to suggest that the editor's rationale is, "I don't like it." Maybe he/she thinks that these reviews are not enough per WP:NF (which is why I have explained how WP:NF works in conjunction with WP:GNG on the user talk page). To me, the person is basically saying, these sources are not enough sufficient to establish notability, and the reason is unclear. Maybe it's a certain reading of WP:NF, for all we know. Erik (talk | contribs) 13:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Michael G. Santos
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The Signpost: 28 January 2013
- In the media: Hoaxes draw media attention
On New Year's Day, the Daily Dot reported that a "massive Wikipedia hoax" had been exposed after more than five years. The article on the Bicholim conflict had been listed as a "Good Article" for the past half-decade, yet turned out to be an ingenious hoax. Created in July 2007 by User:A-b-a-a-a-a-a-a-b-a, the meticulously detailed piece was approved as a GA in October 2007. A subsequent submission for FA was unsuccessful, but failed to discover that the article's key sources were made up. While the User:A-b-a-a-a-a-a-a-b-a account then stopped editing, the hoax remained listed as a Good Article for five years, receiving in the region of 150 to 250 page views a month in 2012. It was finally nominated for deletion on 29 December 2012 by ShelfSkewed—who had discovered the hoax while doing work on Category:Articles with invalid ISBNs—and deleted the same day.
- Recent research: Lessons from the research literature on open collaboration; clicks on featured articles; credibility heuristics
A special issue of the American Behavioral Scientist is devoted to "open collaboration".
- WikiProject report: Checkmate! — WikiProject Chess
When we challenged the masters of WikiProject Chess to an interview, Sjakkalle answered our call. WikiProject Chess dates back to December 2003 and has grown to include 4 Featured Articles and 15 Good Articles maintained by over 100 members. The project typically operates independently of other WikiProjects, although the project would theoretically be a child of WikiProject Board and Table Games (interviewed in 2011). WikiProject Chess provides a collection of resources, seeks missing photographs of chess players, and helps determine ways that Wikipedia's coverage of chess can be expanded.
- Discussion report: Administrator conduct and requests
New discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- News and notes: Khan Academy's Smarthistory and Wikipedia collaborate
To many Wikimedians, the Khan Academy would seem like a close cousin: the academy is a non-profit educational website and a development of the massive open online course concept that has delivered over 227 million lessons in 22 different languages. Its mission is to give "a free, world-class education to anyone, anywhere." This complements Wikipedia's stated goal to "imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge", then go and create that world. It should come as no surprise, then, that the highly successful GLAM-Wiki (galleries, libraries, archives, museums) initiative has partnered with the Khan Academy's Smarthistory project to further both its and Wikipedia's goals.
- Featured content: Listing off progress from 2012
This week, the Signpost featured content section continues its recap of 2012 by looking at featured lists. We interviewed FLC directors Giants2008 and The Rambling Man as well as active reviewer and writer PresN.
- Arbitration report: Doncram continues
The Doncram case has continued into its third week.
- Technology report: Developers get ready for FOSDEM amid caching problems
As reported in last week's "Technology Report", the WMF's data centre in Ashburn, Virginia took over responsibility for almost all of the remaining functions that had previously been handled by their old facility in Tampa, Florida on 22 January. The Signpost reported then that few problems had arisen since handover. Unfortunately that was not to remain the case, with reports of caching problems (which typically only affect anonymous users) starting to come in.
WikiCup 2013 January newsletter

Signups are now closed; we have our final 127 contestants for this year's competition. 64 contestants will make it to the next round at the end of February, but we're already seeing strong scoring compared to previous years.
Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) currently leads, with 358 points. At this stage in 2012, the leader (
Grapple X (submissions)) had 342 points, while in 2011, the leader had 228 points. We also have a large number of scorers when compared with this stage in previous years.
12george1 (submissions) was the first competitor to score this year, as he was last year, with a detailed good article review. Some other firsts:
12george1 (submissions) was also the first to score for an article, with the good article Hurricane Gordon (2000). Again, this is a repeat of last year!
Buggie111 (submissions) was the first to score for a did you know, with Marquis Flowers.
Spencer (submissions) was the first to score for an in the news, with 2013 Houphouët-Boigny stampede.
Status (submissions) was the first to score for a featured list, with list of Billboard Social 50 number-one artists.
Adam Cuerden (submissions) was the first to score for a featured picture, with File:Thure de Thulstrup - L. Prang and Co. - Battle of Gettysburg - Restoration by Adam Cuerden.jpg.
Featured articles, portals and topics, as well as good topics, are yet to feature in the competition.
This year, the bonus points system has been reworked, with bonus points on offer for old articles prepared for did you know, and "multiplier" points reworked to become more linear. For details, please see Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. There have been some teething problems as the bot has worked its way around the new system, but issues should mostly be ironed out- please report any problems to the WikiCup talk page. Here are some participants worthy of note with regards to the bonus points:
Ed! (submissions) was the first to score bonus points, with Portland-class cruiser, a good article.
Hawkeye7 (submissions) has the highest overall bonus points, as well as the highest scoring article, thanks to his work on Enrico Fermi, now a good article. The biography of such a significant figure to the history of science warrants nearly five times the normal score.
HueSatLum (submissions) claimed bonus points for René Vautier and Nicolas de Fer, articles that did not exist on the English Wikipedia at the start of the year; a first for the WikiCup. The articles were eligible for bonus points because of fact they were both covered on a number of other Wikipedias.
Also, a quick mention of
The C of E (submissions), who may well have already written the oddest article of the WikiCup this year: did you know that the Fucking mayor objected to Fucking Hell on the grounds that there was no Fucking brewery? The gauntlet has been thrown down; can anyone beat it?
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:57, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Cultural conflict
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The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
RE: Peacekeeping maps
Have you seen File:UNpeacekeeping.svg? It appears to be what you are looking for. ResMar 23:05, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Magnates of Poland and Lithuania
| On 3 February 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Magnates of Poland and Lithuania, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Magnates of Poland and Lithuania often had private armies, and exerted significant political influence on the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Magnates of Poland and Lithuania. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The contents of article on Sonel.
OK. Może na dzień dobry, skoro dyskutuje 2 Polaków, proponuję przejść na język polski, choćby dlatego, że nie umkną żadne subtelności.
Co do strony - zwracam uwagę, że ktoś tutaj chce być bardziej chyba papieski od papieża - otrzymuję ostrzeżenia, że artykuł nt. firmy Sonel, stworzony przeze mnie na en.wikipedia.org nie jest poprawnym artykułem, ale informacją (reklamą?) w stylu Yellow Pages.
Nie mogę się z tym zgodzić.
Po pierwsze - treść. W artykule przedstawiłem informację, jakich nie przedstawia się w książkach telefonicznych - historię firmy, produkty dawno wycofane, ale takie, które trwale zakorzeniły się w środowisku osób związanych z energetyką, produkty charakterystyczne oraz to, czego nie widać (linia produkcyjna itp.).
Po drugie - dyskryminacja. Tworząc artykuł wzorowałem się głównie na artykule dotyczącym firmy Megger - moim zdaniem jest on bardziej "Yellow pages" niż mój artykuł, zawiera bowiem, oprócz rozbudowanej (ponad 100 lat istnienia, Sonel jedynie 20) historii choćby takie rzeczy, jak linki do dystrybutorów - podejście zupełnie handlowe.
Po trzecie - demokracja. Zastanówmy się w takim razie, idąc Pana tropem, co jeszcze należałoby usunąć z Wikipedii. Na dzień dobry widzę artykuły dotyczące podobnej branży - na przykład Fluke Corporation, Megger. Dalej - również (wg Pańskiej logiki) bardzo "Yellow Pages" są artykuły na przykład Ford Motor Company, Chrysler, Škoda Auto, Volkswagen... Idąc tym tropem dochodzimy do haseł takich jak Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Lukoil, później Procter & Gamble, docelowo również na naszej liście znajdzie się Disneyland. Każde z wymienionych przeze mnie haseł jest firmą (kompanią, koncernem, korporacją); od firmy przeze mnie opisywanej różnią się wielkością oraz umiejscowieniem - są to firmy międzynarodowe, których centrale mieszczą się w GB, USA...
I tu dochodzimy do sedna sprawy. Najwyraźniej komuś (i to Polakowi!) przeszkadza, żeby w angielskiej (= międzynarodowej) wersji wikipedii znalazły się informacje dotyczące firmy z Polski, która nie zajmuje się produkcją jajek, ale posiada coraz bardziej ugruntowaną pozycję w branży pomiarowo - energetycznej.
Czekam teraz na rzeczowe argumenty z Pana strony - bowiem czasy, kiedy Murzyn (przepraszam - Afroamerykanin) nie mógł wsiąść do autobusu w Alabamie dlatego, bo był czarny, skończyły się kilkadziesiąt lat temu.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagokogo (talk • contribs) 5:22 am, Today (UTC−5)