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_typevar_types and _paramspec_tvars are missing from _GenericAlias.copy_with #90739
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assignee=Noneclosed_at=<Date2022-03-11.14:58:44.809>created_at=<Date2022-01-30.13:20:18.515>labels= ['type-bug', 'library', '3.10', '3.11']
title='_typevar_types and _paramspec_tvars are missing from _GenericAlias.copy_with'updated_at=<Date2022-03-11.14:58:44.808>user='https://github.com/posita'
c55ff1b was submitted to fix bpo-44098 and added the _typevar_types and _paramspec_tvars properties to _GenericAlias. However, those properties continue to be omitted from _GenericAlias.copy_with1.
Further, typing.py is fairly intricate, which makes it hard to understand if that is the only place those properties are absent. A more careful review/audit may be in order.
Wow! Thanks, that's an interesting find. My hunch is that we should be passing in _typevar_types and _paramspec_tvars in the copy_with of _GenericAlias and _ConcatenateGenericAlias. Inconsistent copy_with could trigger subtle bugs in ForwardRefs and get_type_hints. I can reproduce a semi-bug right now:
>>> P = ParamSpec('P')
>>> Callable[P, int].__parameters__
(~P,)
>>> Callable[P, int].copy_with((P,int))
typing.Callable[~P, int]
>>> Callable[P, int].copy_with((P,int)).__parameters__
()
^ This shouldn't be empty!!
Would you like to submit a patch for this?
posita commented on Feb 1, 2022
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I am happy to attempt a patch, but I don't understand what's going on with _ConcatenateGenericAlias. Or rather, I don't fully understand the various copy_with semantics. This code is *very* hard to follow.
_ConcatenateGenericAlias.copy_with, on the other hand, appears to return a tuple rather than a type until it falls back to the parent implementation. What does one do with that?
Also, what about _AnnotatedAlias, _SpecialGenericAlias, _UnionGenericAlias, or _strip_annotations? Do any of those need to be modified?
I can't find any tests that deal with copy_with directly, so I'm assuming its use is stressed via higher level code paths, but it's not clear what use cases that method is supposed to serve. The good news is that its use is confined to typing.py. The bad news is that file gives little insight to those who aren't already experts in that territory.
In short, I will do my best, but I suspect I will need patience and guidance in arriving something acceptable.
In short, I will do my best, but I suspect I will need patience and guidance in arriving something acceptable.
Yeah no worries. typing.py is really complex for many historical reasons. I still don't grasp all of it and probably never will.
what about _AnnotatedAlias, _SpecialGenericAlias, _UnionGenericAlias, or _strip_annotations?
They shouldn't need modification. And there's an elegant reason why. Currently ParamSpec is only valid in Generic, Callable and Concatenate. We don't care about any other types. As long as ParamSpec appears in their __parameters__ and the copy_with of those 3 have the correct settings.
Well what about when they're nested? The other types blindly copy over whatever they see in __parameters__ of any nested types. So even if you don't pass those settings to their copy_with, it doesn't matter (well of course, until someone else uses this setting and expands its scope, then proceeds to trip over it :(. this seems like a potential trap affecting PEP-646's runtime.)
>>> X = Concatenate[int, ParamSpec('P')]
>>> Container[X]
typing.Container[typing.Concatenate[int, ~P]]
>>> Container[X].copy_with(X).__parameters__
(~P,)
^ Works even though this uses _SpecialGenericAlias, which doesn't properly pass in the settings!
I can't find any tests that deal with copy_with directly, so I'm assuming its use is stressed via higher level code paths, but it's not clear what use cases that method is supposed to serve.
Yeah. If you search for "copy_with" in typing.py. You'll find that it's called in __getitem__. Now __getitem__ is used when we subscript an already subscripted type. What I mean is:
We need copy_with because we want to create a full "copy" of all the args into the new GenericAlias object and not face weird problems with mutability. That specific use case is tested super often.
_ConcatenateGenericAlias.copy_with, on the other hand, appears to return a tuple rather than a type until it falls back to the parent implementation. What does one do with that?
Frankly, I was quite lost too until I saw that it was part of bpo-44791, which deals with special special (undefined) cases in PEP-612 and Concatenate. Basically for a very weird Concatenate, the core dev there has chosen to return a tuple of types instead of another type. Let's just ignore those strange tuple paths, and only care about the path using the parent implementation.
posita commented on Feb 1, 2022
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Thanks, @kj! Fantastic education and insight! I'm sad that I needed you as an interpreter but very grateful you were around to provide the interpretation. Working on a patch now….
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posita commentedon Jan 30, 2022
c55ff1b was submitted to fix bpo-44098 and added the _typevar_types and _paramspec_tvars properties to _GenericAlias. However, those properties continue to be omitted from _GenericAlias.copy_with1.
Further, typing.py is fairly intricate, which makes it hard to understand if that is the only place those properties are absent. A more careful review/audit may be in order.
posita commentedon Jan 30, 2022
Filed by request: #26091 (comment)
Fidget-Spinner commentedon Jan 30, 2022
Wow! Thanks, that's an interesting find. My hunch is that we should be passing in _typevar_types and _paramspec_tvars in the copy_with of _GenericAlias and _ConcatenateGenericAlias. Inconsistent copy_with could trigger subtle bugs in ForwardRefs and get_type_hints. I can reproduce a semi-bug right now:
Would you like to submit a patch for this?
posita commentedon Feb 1, 2022
I am happy to attempt a patch, but I don't understand what's going on with _ConcatenateGenericAlias. Or rather, I don't fully understand the various copy_with semantics. This code is *very* hard to follow.
Patching _GenericAlias.copy_with seems relatively straightforward:
_ConcatenateGenericAlias.copy_with, on the other hand, appears to return a tuple rather than a type until it falls back to the parent implementation. What does one do with that?
Also, what about _AnnotatedAlias, _SpecialGenericAlias, _UnionGenericAlias, or _strip_annotations? Do any of those need to be modified?
I can't find any tests that deal with copy_with directly, so I'm assuming its use is stressed via higher level code paths, but it's not clear what use cases that method is supposed to serve. The good news is that its use is confined to typing.py. The bad news is that file gives little insight to those who aren't already experts in that territory.
In short, I will do my best, but I suspect I will need patience and guidance in arriving something acceptable.
Fidget-Spinner commentedon Feb 1, 2022
Yeah no worries. typing.py is really complex for many historical reasons. I still don't grasp all of it and probably never will.
They shouldn't need modification. And there's an elegant reason why. Currently ParamSpec is only valid in Generic, Callable and Concatenate. We don't care about any other types. As long as ParamSpec appears in their __parameters__ and the copy_with of those 3 have the correct settings.
Well what about when they're nested? The other types blindly copy over whatever they see in __parameters__ of any nested types. So even if you don't pass those settings to their copy_with, it doesn't matter (well of course, until someone else uses this setting and expands its scope, then proceeds to trip over it :(. this seems like a potential trap affecting PEP-646's runtime.)
Yeah. If you search for "copy_with" in typing.py. You'll find that it's called in __getitem__. Now __getitem__ is used when we subscript an already subscripted type. What I mean is:
We need copy_with because we want to create a full "copy" of all the args into the new GenericAlias object and not face weird problems with mutability. That specific use case is tested super often.
Frankly, I was quite lost too until I saw that it was part of bpo-44791, which deals with special special (undefined) cases in PEP-612 and Concatenate. Basically for a very weird Concatenate, the core dev there has chosen to return a tuple of types instead of another type. Let's just ignore those strange tuple paths, and only care about the path using the parent implementation.
posita commentedon Feb 1, 2022
Thanks, @kj! Fantastic education and insight! I'm sad that I needed you as an interpreter but very grateful you were around to provide the interpretation. Working on a patch now….
serhiy-storchaka commentedon Mar 10, 2022
New changeset 32bf359 by Matt Bogosian in branch 'main':
bpo-46581: Propagate private vars via _GenericAlias.copy_with (GH-31061)
32bf359
serhiy-storchaka commentedon Mar 11, 2022
New changeset 3bc8019 by Matt Bogosian in branch '3.10':
[3.10] bpo-46581: Propagate private vars via _GenericAlias.copy_with (GH-31061) (GH-31821)
3bc8019