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PEP-585 has the side-effect of making list[int] an instance of type. This is not the case for other generic aliases.
It also implies that inspect.isclass(list[int]) is True, while list[int] is not a class; as a proof of this statement issubclass(list[int], collections.abc.Collection) raises TypeError: issubclass() arg 1 must be a class.
By the way, there is the awkward thing of having isinstance(list[int], type) is True while issubclass(type(list[int]), type) is False.
The reason for this is that types.GenericAlias.getattribute delegates to the alias's origin (in the ga_getattro function). As a result, list[int].__class__ calls list.__class__ and returns type. And the implementation of isinstance(obj, type) ultimately calls issubclass(obj.__class__, type). (That's in object_isinstance() in abstract.c. It's news to me; I didn't know you could customize isinstance() behavior on the object side.)
To fix this, we could make ga_getattro not delegate for __class__, so that list[int].__class__ would return GenericAlias instead of type. The current implementation of GenericAlias has been around for a few releases by now, though, so that change might break some use cases.
This is not the case for other generic aliases.
This is not true; it is the same for e.g. set[int]. Unless you meant something else here.
The current implementation of GenericAlias has been around for a few releases by now, though, so that change might break some use cases.
I agree that a "fix" could have unexpected side-effect, my issue comes quite late indeed. By the way, Python typing is so much unstable (every version breaks the previous one), it's very complicated to write code that support multiple versions, so whatever the typing internal implementation, we must adapt.
This is not true; it is the same for e.g. set[int]. Unless you meant something else here.
I have chosen list[int] as an example of types.GenericAlias introduced by PEP-585 (i could have chosen set[int] or collections.abc.Collection[int]). But other generic aliases, e.g. typing.List[int] or MyClass[int] (where MyClass inherits Generic[T]), are not instances of type.
@joseph Perez, is there a specific library or pattern that is broken by this?
Because issubclass requires a "class" as arg 1, I use the pattern if isinstance(tp, type) and issubclass(tp, SomeClass) (isinstance check being equivalent to inspect.isclass). With PEP-585, it breaks for list[int] and other builtin generic aliases.
FWIW I did think rather carefully about which attributes to delegate or not, and delegating __class__ was intentional.
I don't have the context of the decision, so I can quite understand that delegating __class__ was the right thing to do, especially when __mro__ and other type attributes are also delegated.
I mainly wanted to highlight this side effect, especially on the pattern mentioned above. (My issue title is a little bit excessive in this regard)
But as I've written, I've already so many wrappers to maintain compatibility between Python versions of typing that I can write a new one to handle this particularity of PEP-585. So this issue is not critical to me.
Thanks for taking the time to raise this inconvenience on the bug tracker.
By the way, Python typing is so much unstable (every version breaks the previous one), it's very complicated to write code that support multiple versions, so whatever the typing internal implementation, we must adapt.
Compared to some of the more mature modules in Python, I have to agree that typing.py is mildly unstable. However, you're not supposed to be using/importing from the internal constructs - those have no guarantee of stability. If you feel some common use cases aren't met by the current introspection helpers, please please please create a new issue for that and we'll consider it. How we use typing may differ from how you use it and so there's a lot we don't see. User bug reports and feedback have helped to surface such issues and improved typing for everyone :).
I have chosen list[int] as an example of types.GenericAlias introduced by PEP-585 (i could have chosen set[int] or collections.abc.Collection[int]). But other generic aliases, e.g. typing.List[int] or MyClass[int] (where MyClass inherits Generic[T]), are not instances of type.
This is an implementation detail. Most typing PEPs don't usually specify the runtime behavior in detail because most of them focus on static analysis. The implementation is usually up to the contributor's judgement. FWIW, to accommodate the new 3.9 GenericAlias, typing.py just added additional checks for isinstance(tp, types.GenericAlias) instead of checking only for isinstance(tp, type) and friends.
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wyfo commentedon Jun 2, 2021
PEP-585 has the side-effect of making
list[int]an instance oftype. This is not the case for other generic aliases.It also implies that
inspect.isclass(list[int]) is True, whilelist[int]is not a class; as a proof of this statementissubclass(list[int], collections.abc.Collection)raisesTypeError: issubclass() arg 1 must be a class.By the way, there is the awkward thing of having
isinstance(list[int], type) is Truewhileissubclass(type(list[int]), type) is False.JelleZijlstra commentedon Jun 3, 2021
The reason for this is that types.GenericAlias.getattribute delegates to the alias's origin (in the
ga_getattrofunction). As a result,list[int].__class__callslist.__class__and returnstype. And the implementation ofisinstance(obj, type)ultimately callsissubclass(obj.__class__, type). (That's inobject_isinstance()in abstract.c. It's news to me; I didn't know you could customize isinstance() behavior on the object side.)To fix this, we could make
ga_getattronot delegate for__class__, so thatlist[int].__class__would returnGenericAliasinstead oftype. The current implementation of GenericAlias has been around for a few releases by now, though, so that change might break some use cases.This is not true; it is the same for e.g.
set[int]. Unless you meant something else here.gvanrossum commentedon Jun 3, 2021
Since these are new forms (list[int] previously was an error), does it actually matter? Especially since these are primarily used in annotations.
@joseph Perez, is there a specific library or pattern that is broken by this?
FWIW I did think rather carefully about which attributes to delegate or not, and delegating __class__ was intentional.
wyfo commentedon Jun 3, 2021
@jelle Zijlstra Thank you for the explanation.
I agree that a "fix" could have unexpected side-effect, my issue comes quite late indeed. By the way, Python typing is so much unstable (every version breaks the previous one), it's very complicated to write code that support multiple versions, so whatever the typing internal implementation, we must adapt.
I have chosen
list[int]as an example oftypes.GenericAliasintroduced by PEP-585 (i could have chosenset[int]orcollections.abc.Collection[int]). But other generic aliases, e.g.typing.List[int]orMyClass[int](whereMyClassinheritsGeneric[T]), are not instances oftype.Because
issubclassrequires a "class" as arg 1, I use the patternif isinstance(tp, type) and issubclass(tp, SomeClass)(isinstancecheck being equivalent toinspect.isclass). With PEP-585, it breaks forlist[int]and other builtin generic aliases.I don't have the context of the decision, so I can quite understand that delegating
__class__was the right thing to do, especially when__mro__and othertypeattributes are also delegated.I mainly wanted to highlight this side effect, especially on the pattern mentioned above. (My issue title is a little bit excessive in this regard)
But as I've written, I've already so many wrappers to maintain compatibility between Python versions of typing that I can write a new one to handle this particularity of PEP-585. So this issue is not critical to me.
Fidget-Spinner commentedon Jun 3, 2021
@jelle thanks for nosy-ing me too and the thorough investigation.
@joseph
Thanks for taking the time to raise this inconvenience on the bug tracker.
Compared to some of the more mature modules in Python, I have to agree that typing.py is mildly unstable. However, you're not supposed to be using/importing from the internal constructs - those have no guarantee of stability. If you feel some common use cases aren't met by the current introspection helpers, please please please create a new issue for that and we'll consider it. How we use typing may differ from how you use it and so there's a lot we don't see. User bug reports and feedback have helped to surface such issues and improved typing for everyone :).
This is an implementation detail. Most typing PEPs don't usually specify the runtime behavior in detail because most of them focus on static analysis. The implementation is usually up to the contributor's judgement. FWIW, to accommodate the new 3.9 GenericAlias, typing.py just added additional checks for
isinstance(tp, types.GenericAlias)instead of checking only forisinstance(tp, type)and friends.gvanrossum commentedon Jun 3, 2021
Instead of introspecting types, use this library:
https://github.com/ilevkivskyi/typing_inspect
ilevkivskyi commentedon Jun 3, 2021
Btw this reminds me I should make a PyPI release of typing_inspect (last release was May 2020), hopefully will make a release on this weekend.
ilevkivskyi commentedon Jun 5, 2021
Uploaded typing_inspect 0.7.0 to PyPI (it should work with Python 3.9 hopefully)
JacobHayes commentedon Nov 28, 2022
I think this can be closed after #93754 (though I don't see it in the 3.11 changelog):
Anyone relying on
isinstance(list[int], type)to beTruecan instead useisinstance(list[int], (type, GenericAlias)).Workaround python/cpython#88459
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