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new throw() / athrow() syntax w/ single value is not clearly documented or noted as new in python 3.12 #105269
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@gvanrossum @iritkatriel Questions about (doc of) athrow(v) vs. athrow(t, v) vs athrow(t,b,t) and versions.
@zzzeek Would you like to make a patch with doc updates?
@zzzeek Would you like to make a patch with doc updates?
if you could tell me what the docs would say? Is there any change in behavior for
athrow(value)vs.athrow(type, value, tback)? I vaguely recall similar functions where these are in fact equivalent but my co-maintainer @CaselIT is not sureIf there is then please file a bug report.
Hi -
The bug is, "the documentation does not explain this". I dont understand the documentation, and I dont know how to write the documentation because I don't understand the API. Do I need to file a bug report under a different tag? I had the impression that "documentation bugs" was the appropriate place to post this.
No this issue is fine for the documentation.
@zzzeek Would you like to make a patch with doc updates?
if you could tell me what the docs would say? Is there any change in behavior for
athrow(value)vs.athrow(type, value, tback)? I vaguely recall similar functions where these are in fact equivalent but my co-maintainer @CaselIT is not sureIf there is then please file a bug report.
so the idea here is to document also for version previous to 3.12 the call signature
athrow(value)? so copy paste the 3.12 documentation minus the deprecation?Reacted by Irit KatrielThank you. We may be able to do automatic backports so hold off for now.
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the docs at
cpython/Doc/reference/expressions.rst
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throw(value)calling style appears to be new in Python 3.12; docs for 3.11 do not refer to it:cpython/Doc/reference/expressions.rst
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throw(). It's not clear to us here if usingthrow(value)will work identically on older Python versions. Looking at 396b583 it seems to be possibly 3.11 related, but in #96348 @gvanrossum claims "It allows passing either an exception, or a (type, value, traceback) triple where the value and traceback are optional. ", but this does not seem to be documented and is creating some confusion over here.the changelog as well as the deprecation warning both refer to the "single arg version" , which will "work" on older py3 versions but has different behavior (Edit: or maybe it doesn't. we're not sure :) ).
can this document be clarified as to what differences, if any, exist between
athrow(value)andathrow(type, value)and within what Python versions this new style should be accepted as an exact drop-in for the old style? thanksLinked PRs
agen.athrow(value)signature to the 3.11 docs gh-105269 #105468agen.athrow(value)signature to the 3.11 docs gh-105269 (GH-105468) #105477agen.athrow(value)signature to the 3.11 docs gh-105269 (GH-105468) #105478agen.athrow(value)signature to the 3.11 docs gh-105269 (GH-105468) #105479agen.athrow(value)signature to the 3.11 docs gh-105269 (GH-105468) #105480