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A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 6 § States and territories (dis)established in YYYY on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. harrz talk 21:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

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DYK for Prisoners of war in World War II

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DYK for Allied prisoners of war in Japan

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The Bugle: Issue 225, January 2025

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Anglo-American

Hi. Not adverse to a dab, however the first item does not point to a particular subject, rather it is more of a definition than a link to an article on that subject. Therefore there is currently only one valid target. Onel5969 TT me 11:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@Onel5969 I am not sure if this is against policy? There is also Anglo American plc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi. I'm pretty sure it is. One of the 3 aspects of a dab page is "Ensuring that a reader who searches for a topic using a particular term can get to the information on that topic quickly and easily, whichever of the possible topics it might be." The first item on the dab page was little more than a definition, and definitely didn't link to get the reader to a particular topic. In addition, each bullet on a dab should only have a single blue link. Also, I'm not quite sure what you intended to refer to in that first definition. Did you mean inhabitants of those 5 countries? Those 5 countries as a group? Or that each of those countries might also be referred to by that term? Finally, re: the plc, that can be handled by a hatnote, since the demographic is clearly the primary target. Onel5969 TT me 18:59, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
@Onel5969 The point is that Anglo-American refers, primarily, to "both Britain and the US."; the redirect to Anglo-Americans is misleading. This is also true for many links pointing to it. Anyway, I fortunately found a proper single article to use in the disambig (Anglosphere). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Should this be merged with Anglo American disambig? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:22, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Sounds good. I made a slight tweak, since each entry should only have 1 blue link. Let me know what you think. And regarding the merge, yes, probably, that would simplify searches. Onel5969 TT me 10:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
@Onel5969 Could you do the merge? I also think that the Anglo-American Publishing does not belong there per WP:PARTIAL (but the plc is ok, since it is sometimes referred to without the plc). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Done. I added the publishing house, for while I understand your point about PARTIAL, I also think that someone searching for the publishing house might only put in the first two words. Onel5969 TT me 01:57, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
@Onel5969 Fair, but consider we have a bunch of other stuff like Anglo-American School of Moscow, Anglo-American loan and quite a few others I see from the search... Oh, we should probably redirect Anglo-american to the disambig too? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
I see your point now. In light of that, I'll remove the publishing house, and yes, Anglo-american should also point to the dab. I'll take care of it. Onel5969 TT me 10:48, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for German atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II

On 9 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article German atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that while Germans murdered millions of prisoners of war during WWII, the survival ratio of Jewish POWs was generally tied to the army or nation they served with, and not to their ethnicity? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/German atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, German atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hook update
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Your GA nomination of Małe zielone ludziki

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Polish language help

Hi Piotrus,

I wrote an article on the ToNiePokój escape room fire, and am doing some research for information to expand it. My Polish is not very good yet, and the passage "Prokurator zwróciła także uwagę na opinię biegłych, według których budynek był w złym stanie technicznym. - Nie było tam stałego źródła ogrzewania, a o wynajmie zadecydowała niska cena czynszu - dodała. W mowie końcowej wypunktowano także zlekceważenie obowiązku wprowadzenia stałego ogrzewania do lokalu usługowego i instrukcji obsługi tych urządzeń. - Piecyki gazowe, mające ogrzewać lokal, umieszczono w pomieszczeniach pozbawionych wentylacji i zawierających materiały łatwopalne - podkreśliła prokurator Sielska." (from ) is confusing me and Google translate is coming up with gibberish. If it is not too much trouble, would you mind giving me the gist of the passage? Thank you for any help you can provide. All the best, Grumpylawnchair (talk) 16:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@Grumpylawnchair Sure. Here's my corrected Google Translate: The prosecutor also drew attention to the experts opinion, according to which the building was in poor technical condition. - There was no permanent source of heating there, and the low rent was the deciding factor in renting it - she added. The final speech also highlighted the neglect of the obligation to introduce permanent heating to the service premises and the [the neglect of the obligation to follow the] instructions for using these devices. - Gas heaters, which were supposed to heat the premises, were placed in rooms without ventilation and containing flammable materials - emphasized prosecutor Sielsak
Overall, GT did a good job; it changed experts to expert. I an not sure what else could be confusing, but I clarified one part that might be unclear in the original? Is there anything else you'd like to ask about this passage? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:55, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
No, thank you. I realised that I had used Firefox's local translate instead of Google Translate, and that's what caused the gibberish. I still have issues in understanding more formal Polish sometimes, since I learn as a hobby, and I guess that the conjugation confused me. All the best, Grumpylawnchair (talk) 04:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

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DYK for Polish prisoners of war in World War II

On 19 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Polish prisoners of war in World War II, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Polish prisoners of war in World War II were held not only by Nazi Germany but also by the Soviet Union? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Polish prisoners of war in World War II. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Polish prisoners of war in World War II), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

hello! i read through your GA review of ten no hate made. i don't mind assisting with some of the japanese, but i'm going in relatively blind, having only read versailles, claudine, and oniisama e... i'm a little pre-occupied right now, but if you can point me in the direction for what you need or give me some sources to work from, i'd be happy to help any way i can! Plifal (talk) 13:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Much appreciated. I don't know if there are any academic works mentioning this in Japanese, but I'd expect there should be at least some reviews or such? I'd be very curious if there was any commentary by Japanese reviewers on the choice of subject matter (Polish history), which is very rare in Japan, but I'll settle for just learning what the reviewers said (assuming any can be found). Versailles is pretty famous, so I'd think someone would notice that spin off... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
no worries! a cursory google search returned mostly book shops, but i'll see if i can dig for anything more.--Plifal (talk) 15:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
@Plifal Based on my experience with Polish sources, a lot will be non-digitized (particularly considering the age of this). For Polish sources, I often stumble upon mentions of old reviews and such through google book snippets - then I ask a colleague in Poland to go the library and scan stuff for me. Not sure how that will work for Japanese language sources. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
ok understood, i'll do the same. i might be able to find something in the otaku district here too. i'll do my best!--Plifal (talk) 04:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
@Plifal Thanks. I am curious to find what sources, if any exist. I'd assume there would be outlets in Japan that would publish reviews of manga; if not academic (ex. Polish equivalent would be Nowe Książki) then presumably in otaku manga magazines and fanzines, which I'd expect to be pretty popular in Japan. Category:Literary magazines published in Japan has many options, and there is also Category:Manga magazines published in Japan, some of which could publish reviews. The big issues is how digitized they are, given that most editions were published in the 1990s. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
@Plifal A collegue send me a lists of potential reviews found by an AI, although (1) I am not sure if they are reliable and (2) they probably are not the old reviews, but some new ones?
[1] https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html
[2] https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000
[3] https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001
[4] https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/
[5] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241
[6] http://blog.happyblossom.boo.jp
[7] https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
@Piotrus thank you kindly! i'll look through these this week. i went to the otaku district here but couldn't find any old magazines carrying reviews, but did find cheap copies of the manga with some kind of accompanying text which may contain something useful.--Plifal (talk) 12:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Retelling

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Ten no Hate Made

hi! just getting back to you on the entries you sent me to look at/information for ten no hate made.

[1] https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html - this is a blog and likely doesn't meet the criteria for reliability. while it mostly functions as a review, it does contain some insight that i think is available to source from the hardback editions i found last week, hopefully i'll get round to reading it soon.
[2] https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000 - this is also a personal blog and doesn't contain anything specific or sourced to draw from.
[3] https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001 - this is a shop link the only thing it may be sourced for is verifying a reprinting that took place on 23 august 2013.
[4] https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/ - this is also a shop link.
[5] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241 - not sure what the policy is for goodreads, but this verifies that an original hardback collection was released in 1993 (isbn-9784022607485) (asin-4022607483)
[6] http://blog.happyblossom.boo.jp - is a blog that's unrelated to the manga.
[7] https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 - similar to goodreads, it's a japanese book blogging website, also confirms the release date of the hardback.
i saw that manga: an anthology of global perspectives, edited by toni johnson-woods mentions the series a couple of times. not sure there's much information though.
--Plifal (talk) 11:51, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Documenting the destruction of Warsaw

Piotrus, as a man proficient in Polish and with broad interests and seemingly boundless energy, you might find something of interest within this. (Well [cough], I can't immediately think of anybody else who might do so.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:53, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Question before AfD

Hi. It seems like you're well experienced when it comes to Afd and notability guidelines. Do you think this article Rebecca Chambers is notable? I feel like is the only sigcov, while this one just only stated that the creator hates her. Thanks! 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 02:02, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

@Boneless Pizza! Thanks for asking. I am indeed interested in the notability of fictional characters, and I agree many are poorly done; that said, I am also upset when I see longer articles deleted or redirected without even a merger. I agree with your assessment of these two sources; one could argue that second SIGCOV source is provided by https://www.thegamer.com/resident-evil-zero-rebecca-chambers-facts-trivia-didnt-know/ but it is also written in the crappy listicle format, so yeah, this is pretty borderline (no other source in the article mentions her by name). This is a valid topic to bring to AfD, yes, although my vote there would certainly be along the lines 'whatever happens - it is borderline - please merge content (reception) rather than delete. PS. I restored this since I already spend 5m+ looking into this and writing a response. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. Nominating it now. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 02:46, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

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DYK for Science Fiction Chronicle

On 1 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Science Fiction Chronicle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the magazine Science Fiction Chronicle changed its name to just Chronicle two decades after its launch, to avoid being confused with the San Francisco Chronicle? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Science Fiction Chronicle. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Science Fiction Chronicle), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Dr. van Wijk

Cześć, Piotrus. I hope your new year is off to an excellent start. Last month, you kindly reviewed my DYK nomination for Nicolaas van Wijk and expressed an interested in reviewing it at WP:GAN if no one reviewed it by mid-January. I'm writing in the hopes you might still be interested, since February is nearly here and no one has begun a review. No problem if the answer is no, but I figured I should ask. Best, ThaesOfereode (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

@ThaesOfereode Thanks for the ping. I'll try to find time next week as this week I am busy with a bunch of other stuff, on and off-wiki, although I can't promise anything. But feel free to poke me :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
No worries; figured I'd ask! ThaesOfereode (talk) 16:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Klerykal fiction

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The Bugle: Issue 226, February 2025

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DYK for Małe zielone ludziki

On 15 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Małe zielone ludziki, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the communist-era science-fiction novel Małe zielone ludziki presents a futuristic depiction of Africa that reflects Polish perceptions of the continent during the Cold War? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Małe zielone ludziki. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Małe zielone ludziki), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

1=Launchballer 00:02, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

Lo siento

I got a fair bit more agitated with you on that particular "Features of" afd (part of your bundle), and while I totally disagree with your idea of how to nuke it all out of memory and what I perceive as you not perfectly upholding the value of commenting on "content, not contributors", I went to some places I shouldn't've gone to, and for this I apologise. Consider my endorsements of other editors telling you to "get off your high horse" and one-off "if this guy keeps going, we'll take it to ANI", all, um, promptly nullified.

I honestly believe that in an ideal world, there should be a long-term draft for rehab for the content, and it's a hell of a thought to consider the terms hyperlinked through the dozens of MU, MCU and Spider-Man articles that would turn redlinked. I guess it's not bad once you think about red links with possibilities. Other editors seem to think that there should be a "glorious cultural revolution of the content" that frankly, I disbelieve will ever come to be. Leaving it be will cause it to sit there, as rehab-ing the sum total of the pages would amount to a climb up Everest, Mount McKinley, and Kilimanjaro, respectively. Ain't nobody doing that.

Whatever I said, I didn't need to. I offer my heartfelt regrets at having stooped. Wherever you may be, I wish you a good one. BarntToust 04:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

I posit that at least the MCU wikiproject could start out with like a goal to transform one or two sub-section(s) on their "Features of" article a week, but hey, I might work on a pitch later about that. Would you be down to discuss somewhere about like, coming up with one of these for the comic WikiProject to reform the Marvel Universe and Spider-Man FO lists? Obviously I'm not asking you to do any heavy lifting of the pen or anything, I'd just like your thoughts and maybe an endorsement of a plan—doesn't even have to be any of what I'm writing here—so that meaningful reform happens. BarntToust 04:46, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
@BarntToust Well. *silence* I did not expect that. Thank you. In my experience (I've been here a bit longer than you) the way we started our interaction generally ends up... nowhere good, to say the least. I am very happy to find this is an exception. As for the subject in question, I fully support rewriting such stuff. It can be done, I've done it myself on a number of occasions (hmmm, for example, hyperspace here is the old version, I recommend comparing them...). But in my experience such content generally needs to be torn down to nothing, nuked (per WP:TNT), then restarted from scratch. Here, I think the topic of Marvel Universe is obviously notable. I'd direct efforts to fix stuff there. I still feel that Features of... is irredeemably plot summary that does not belong here (per WP:TVTROPES). That said, it's clear consensus for now is to keep this stuff. So be it - we will see over the next few years if it can be fixed, or if consensus changes. Btw, if you are interested in notability (and rescue of) fictional topics, I recommend watchlisting the following pages: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, Comics and animation, and Lists. And by all means, good luck with rewriting/rescuing related topics. I love fiction, I just believe we need to upheld certain standards of quality on Wikipedia (simply put, good encyclopedic articles go beyond plot summaries and/or lists of media appearances of a fictional entity - that's what differentiates us from wikia/fandom type of fansites). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:13, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Even better example than hypespace is what we (mostly TompaDompa) is doing with Template:Astronomical locations in fiction. Check the history of a number of entries there. Point is, content can be fixed. It just takes time, since there are very few of us doing the "heavy lifting", and there are zillions of articles to fix (not to mention, write up from scratch). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Whoa! Thanks for your directory to all of these very insightful revisions, and for your recommendations on versing myself on content rescue. I may take some remedial action eventually based on your reccos. BarntToust 16:36, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

Your WikiCup submissions: three DYKs

Hi Piotrus, thanks for participating in the WikiCup. You recently submitted the following for DYK points:

Unfortunately, none of these are eligible for DYK points because they were all nominated to DYK as newly promoted GAs. I know this can be disappointing, but Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#Did you know? states that only newly created or expanded DYKs are eligible for DYK points. The rules specifically exclude DYK submissions from receiving points if their appearance on DYK is solely because the article was a newly promoted GA. Epicgenius (talk) 23:46, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

@Epicgenius Thanks for the explanation, I understand. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:59, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Weddings in the United States and Canada for deletion

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Your GA nomination of W leju po bombie

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Your GA nomination of W leju po bombie

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 21 § Conflicts in early years

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Your GA nomination of W leju po bombie

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DYK for Series fiction

On 24 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Series fiction, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that series fiction often suffers from "melodramatic inflation", requiring increasingly dramatic threats, which can lead to prequels and spin-offs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Series fiction. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Series fiction), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Jarosław Grzędowicz at The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction

Saw https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/grzedowicz_jaroslaw among SFE's latest entries, and recognized the byline. Cheers! TompaDompa (talk) 21:27, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

@TompaDompa Thank you - I see you monitor it very closely :) I hope to publish few more entries about key figures of Polish sf/fantasy scene in the near future... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:19, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Help with sources for Polish history article

Hi Piotrus, sorry to bother you again, but do you know of any books that cover the death of Grzegorz Przemyk (this is for Grzegorz Przemyk) other than "Żeby nie było śladów. Sprawa Grzegorza Przemyka" by Cezary Łazarewicz? Thanks for any help you can provide, Grumpylawnchair (talk) 21:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

@Grumpylawnchair Book, no - pl wiki mentions only this one (it has a dedicated if short article: pl:Żeby nie było śladów). I presume you saw this? I think these are books collecting his poems (he was a young poet, I think). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:23, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your time. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 03:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2025 March newsletter

The first round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 26 February. As a reminder, we are no longer disqualifying the lowest-scoring contestants; everyone who competed in round 1 will advance to round 2 unless they have withdrawn or been banned from Wikipedia. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. Unlike the round points in the main WikiCup table, which are reset at the end of each round, tournament points are carried over between rounds and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far.

Round 1 was very competitive compared with previous years; two contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and the top 16 contestants all scored more than 500 round points. The following competitors scored more than 800 round points:

The full scores for round 1 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 18 featured articles, 26 featured lists, 1 featured-topic article, 197 good articles, 38 good-topic articles and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 23 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 550 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 26 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2, which begins on 1 March. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Literary work for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Literary work is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Literary work until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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DYK for Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

On 3 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the publication of Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi, the first legally published manga in Poland, has been described as the event that created the manga fandom in the country? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jerzy Broszkiewicz

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Cone of Silence (Get Smart)

My concern with deleting this outright is that many of our core readership will be looking for this when their dad, or attorney, or even Uncle Brian makes a reference about the Cone of Silence. Can we redirect this instead as an ATD? Bearian (talk) 15:59, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

@Bearian Of course, redirects are always preferable to outright deletion. Be bold and go ahead, I have no objection. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:21, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Zaziemskie światy

On 7 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zaziemskie światy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that censorship in communist Poland delayed the publication of the novel Zaziemskie światy for nearly a decade due to its "inappropriate ideological basis" and positive portrayal of the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zaziemskie światy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Zaziemskie światy), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

"Orbiter" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Your GA nomination of Na drugą planetę

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Deadline 1 (Week 2)---Zhang Linyue

Good afternoon, Professor! I am Zhang Linyue from the afternoon class of "Everyday Life and Social Structure". I have completed the student training and also joined the course plan. check it please! thank you!AYAO32269 (talk) 04:59, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@AYAO32269 This is the wrong place. Please check the instruction in the syllabus and leave your message in the correct place Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:32, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Deadline 1 (Week 2)---JIA MENGZHUO

Hello professor. I am a student in this class (Sociology of Everyday Life). I have joined the dashboard system. and completed the training. Ask the professor to check.Zhuo1221 (talk) 04:35, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

This is the wrong place. Please check the instruction in the syllabus and leave your message in the correct place Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:32, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
@Zhuo1221 Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:32, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Hello professor. Would like to confirm if the message was sent on User talk:Hanyangprofessor2. Please check.Zhuo1221 (talk) 05:53, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
@Zhuo1221 Yes, this is where it should be. Please add it there. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Review started for DYK nomination of Novvot

Hello, I've started the review of Template:Did you know nominations/Novvot. I had a few notes about potentially rewording your first hook and a source that might be better support for the name "Persian sugar" I'll be watching the article as well as the template for changes. Overall, good work. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 21:11, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

This Month in Education: February 2025

Proposed deletion of WIEM Encyklopedia

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WIEM Encyklopedia

A beer on me!
Nice save on that prod, you swooped in like an eagle. Cheers, MediaKyle (talk) 15:03, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Well, it was one of mine, and I try to clean up after myself :) Cheers, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

DYK for The Use and Abuse of History: Or How the Past Is Taught

On 15 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Use and Abuse of History: Or How the Past Is Taught, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Use and Abuse of History: Or How the Past Is Taught explores how school textbooks across the world distort history to serve political interests? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Use and Abuse of History: Or How the Past Is Taught. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Use and Abuse of History: Or How the Past Is Taught), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 227, March 2025

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Question

Hi. Having just run into you at a DYK, and then looked at your user page, I was curious what your thoughts might be about a couple of issues. 1, as you are a teacher, are you concerned that when student submit papers to you, it may be difficult to know if AI wrote it? 2, as you have edited wp a great deal, do you see somehow people using AI to create their entries on wikipedia? Just curious. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:B988:8BEF:5DBE:59F6 (talk) 04:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

  1. Yes - it is a common topic of discussion among teachers.
  2. I don't do recent changes/new pages patrol these days, so I don't see it, but I am sure it happens. I have seen it a a bit from my students, although not much as they primarily do translations; but last semester we had some incidents of AI hallucinations being added to Wikivoyage (which is part of my Fall teaching). I am sure there are many more examples around the Wiki, but generally, AI hallucinations can be easily spotted.
  3. I use it myself to polish the prose (at that level, AI is just a refined spellchecker...), craft DYK hooks, as well as article leads (of course, I proofread and fact check all AI output). All tools are good, if used responsibly.
  4. See in case you haven't: Wikipedia:Artificial intelligence
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:55, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Sports fandom

On 17 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sports fandom, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that most sports fans are male, and class distinctions also influence which sports people follow? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sports fandom. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sports fandom), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Roco Kingdom

I improved Draft:Roco Kingdom (game) where I could. There is still a section about in-game characters maybe another editor in the future can review. The computer I use can no longer fully access the archived sources due to software incompatibility. Vacosea (talk) 00:26, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

@Vacosea Thanks, this is much appreciated! Could you find anything about reception of the franchise? Is there any reliable source saying these games/franchise/series are popular, important, etc.? I would also suggest adding translated title (English) to the references (using the translated title parameter - keeping the Chinese title but enhancing it with a translation en readers could understand). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

DYK for The Dedalus Book of Polish Fantasy

On 19 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Dedalus Book of Polish Fantasy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Dedalus Book of Polish Fantasy features stories spanning two centuries of Polish literary tradition, exploring the theme of personification of evil? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Dedalus Book of Polish Fantasy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Dedalus Book of Polish Fantasy), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 67

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Debby Kerner & Ernie Rettino

Given your look at Debby Kerner & Ernie Rettino, I would also suggest scoping out Hi-Tops (film). I still argue DK&ER are probably notable but I couldn't find much on the film. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

DYK for W leju po bombie

On 21 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article W leju po bombie, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Andrzej Sapkowski, the creator of The Witcher, described his short story W leju po bombie as the only one of his works that can be classified as science fiction? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/W leju po bombie. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, W leju po bombie), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:03, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

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Polish assistance?

Hello Piotrus, looking through some old content of mine I found I wrote about A Wizard of Earthsea: "In 1984 it won the Złota Sepulka [pl] or the "Golden Sepulka" in Poland." The citations I had for this are poor, and I can't find better ones. Do you have insight into whether this is worth mentioning in an FA? If so, would you be willing to check for sourcing in Polish, just for that statement? Best, Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:18, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93 The award is notable, so I think it should be mentioned. A quick search (I am leaving home right now) yielded this seemingly RS: https://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/element/bwmeta1.element.ojs-doi-10_24425_kn_2023_146546 , seems to be in English even, and could be useful for something else, perhaps? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks! The book has so much published analysis that it might be difficult to work in elsewhere but I will have a look. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:17, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
Interestingly, it does post-date my writing of the FA, which would explain why I couldn't find it then. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:20, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
FYI the Sepulka award is pretty niche. I still lean towards the view that FA on a book should list all awards, but I could see how for some it could be close to trivia. So it's your call. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Psychiatry Under the Influence

Hello! Funnily enough, I was tasked with finding a DOI for an article in one of my classes; which led me to your Psychiatry Under the Influence wiki page. To preface, I have never written or edited a wiki page so I don’t have the skill to edit a page properly. With this, I noticed that there is a small error within the citation referencing

Marecek, Jeanne (November 2016). "Robert Whitaker and Lisa Cosgrove, Psychiatry under the influence: Institutional corruption, social injury, and prescriptions for reform" [. Feminism & Psychology. 26 (4): 511-514. doi:10.1177/0959353516663966 . ISSN 0959-3535 C.

This error being, that the DOI links to a review of the source, not the actual source. And when I looked, it doesn’t appear that the referenced work has a DOI so it may cause some confusion. If you have a better solution than just removing it, feel free to let me know, as I am still learning about proper citation!

Thanks!

[ [User:Meowmiaoumeow|Meowmiaoumeow]] (talk) 16:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

@Meowmiaoumeow Perhaps I misunderstood your message, but I think this is as intended. As in, it was my intention to link to reviews of the book in question, because it is reviews (or other mentions of the topic - here, book - in independent sources) that can be used as a source. The book itself (which is the topic of the article) is a WP:PRIMARY source and it can be used at best to summarize contents. The article about a book has to be written from sources that talk about the book. See for example The Dark Domain which I am finishing right now, or non-fiction The Use and Abuse of History which I expanded recently.
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Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:04, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

To AfD

Hoax letter writers Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 05:48, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Best of luck with your marking. Yue🌙 04:38, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
@Yue Thanks. Doing just that now :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:12, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Wawel map

Template:Wawel map has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Izno (talk) 01:53, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Found manuscript

On 8 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Found manuscript, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the trope of the found manuscript, in which a fictional work refers to another fictional work of literature, dates as far back as ancient Egypt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Found manuscript. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Found manuscript), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 01:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Na drugą planetę

On 9 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Na drugą planetę, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Na drugą planetę (cover pictured), published in 1895 as one of the earliest Polish science-fiction novels, was later criticized by communist-era censors for its perceived "adoration for America"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Na drugą planetę. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Na drugą planetę), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cielquiparle (talk) 00:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

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DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:40, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

DYK for After London

On 12 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article After London, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that After London has been described as a defining work in genres such as Ruined Earth and climate fiction? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/After London. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, After London), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Novvot

On 14 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Novvot, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that novvot, a popular traditional candy in the Middle East and Central Asia, is often served with tea and has roots in Persian cuisine? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Novvot. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Novvot), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

South Park characters

I just wanna let you know (just in case) that I left several notability tag from these articles that are potentially not notable. Thanks. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 02:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

@Boneless Pizza! If you'd like me to review them pre-AfD, do link them here and I'll take a look. If an article has no notability claim, the tag can totally be used; if someone finds sources but doesn't want to add them, {{sources exist}} can be used. If we cannot find sources, AFD... you know the drill :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:33, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Maybe ILL

Hello! Can you get Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request#Srivastava commemoration volume through your university library? Maybe by ILL? You'd help me very much. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 15:18, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

@Doc Taxon Replied there, but not much luck on my end, I fear. Korean libraries don't tend to carry Indian books, I think. If you ever need a Polish-language source, that I might be able to help with. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:36, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 228, April 2025

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DYK for A Polish Book of Monsters

On 16 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article A Polish Book of Monsters, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that A Polish Book of Monsters features stories in which the line between monster and human is blurred, reflecting what the editor saw as a quintessentially Polish view of monstrosity? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/A Polish Book of Monsters. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, A Polish Book of Monsters), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Your WikiCup submission: three DYKs

Hi Piotrus, thanks for participating in the WikiCup. You recently submitted three articles for DYK points (The Dedalus Book of Polish Fantasy, Sports fandom, and The Use and Abuse of History) but unfortunately these are not eligible for points because they appeared at DYK four weeks ago. I know this can be disappointing, but Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#General rules states that submissions must be made within 14 days of their promotion or appearance on the Main Page. Epicgenius (talk) 19:01, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

@Epicgenius Fair. Then mark me as withdrawn from this; the rules are too unfriendly if they cannot handle a late submission with in such a period. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:13, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
I have withdrawn you from the contest. For what it's worth, the 14-day rule has been there since before 2018 (when it was loosened from 10 days), but nonetheless I'm sorry to hear that you wish to withdraw as a result of this. Thank you for your contributions over the years. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:07, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
@Epicgenius Thanks (and thank you for helping with WikiCup; I may be disappointed with it but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate your work or those of others who keep it running for the rest of us). I nonetheless find that rule pointless and demotivating; I don't have the time or will to report my work to WikiCup often (frankly, I think the process should be automated). I can do it once every month or two, but more often - no, I am sorry, that much navel-gazing is not that fun for me. Feel free to keep this in mind if this ever is brought up (i.e. if there is a discussion about retiring this rule). If it happens, I'd be happy to comment, and rejoin the WikiCup in the future years, when I am not required to submit reports every few days. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:02, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
@Piotrus, I am glad that you appreciate my efforts in helping run the Cup. Again, I apologize that this rule's time limit has caused you to withdraw from the Cup. If I'm still a judge next year, I'll let you know if any discussion comes up regarding this rule. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
@Epicgenius Sure. Ooc, what's the justification for this rule? I cannot think of any positive sides, while I can think of its downsides (i.e. demotivation, and waste of time due to cases like ours here). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:39, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Honestly, I have no idea. It was added here (long before I became involved with the Cup), so you'd have to ask the judges who added that rule. However, I surmise that it would've been to discourage people from saving up submissions until the very last minute, or even more so, saving these submissions for a different round than when they were promoted. – Epicgenius (talk) 02:55, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
@Epicgenius I can see how that would bad, but I was under the impression you cannot save submissions like this, outside the gray ones that were passed on the last ~48h or something reasonable. Someone should suggest revising that rule, in the current format as I said it is too unfriendly (at least, to me; perhaps I am in minority...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:48, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Category:Generals of the Army of Duchy of Warsaw has been nominated for splitting

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DYK nomination of Big Three (World War II)

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DYK for Big Three (World War II)

On 22 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Big Three (World War II), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that there could have been as many as five individual leaders of the Big Three in World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Big Three (World War II). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Big Three (World War II)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hook update
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"Wesołych Świąt" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Ochaco Uraraka

This article have been nomed to FAC before then it was GAN rn but after checking the reception, its all trivia. Do you think this is notable? I know the editor wkrked hard on this, but I think its all trivia. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 02:20, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

@Boneless Pizza! Generally I use SIGCOV as a test for whether something is AfDable. First step - articles mentioning the subject in the heading, used in reception/analysis. In the article, I see quite a few articles, all from CBR/Screen Rant. They tend to have so-so quality, there's at least one listicle, but overall, that may be enough to make her notable (the better ones are 1, 2, 3, 4). Of course, it would better to see something in a more reliable publication. But I'd not AfD it myself. Btw, these days AI with deep research is getting pretty solid. Before AfD, I'd ask AI to look for SIGCOV meeting sources, with explicit request to check Japanese sources. I have not tried it in BEFORE yet, but I am getting good results in some other fields with this approach. Just a hint regarding BEFORE in AI era. Anyway, thanks for checking with me. PS. I'll ping the article creator - maybe my AI hint will help them find more good sources for this. @Z. Patterson Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:11, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know this Piotrus, but many ditorsaid that Valnet sources shouldn't help notability . 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 07:27, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
@Boneless Pizza! and Piotrus: I trimmed the product and special appearances in the reception section as I believe they are WP:ROTM for anime characters. The reception section uses sources besides those from Valnet, such as IGN and Den of Geek, but I plan to remove the less important Valnet sources, as Tintor2 suggested in Talk:Ochaco Uraraka#Reason for WP:GAN. Z. Patterson (talk) 10:42, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
@Boneless Pizza! Maybe we should have a wider discussion about Valnet sources somewhere - if there was one, I wasn't aware of it. The sources don't seem to be marked as problematic by RSN, RSN/P or Headbomb script, so IMHO any criticism of them is not based on wide consensus. I am not saying they are high quality, but they are, AFAIK, acceptable. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:16, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
I see. This consensus came from the WP:Film (see at its talk page "Valnet, Collider, and MovieWeb") and WP:VG (Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources states at the sources that Valnet couldn't contribute to the notability and its a common practice to every editor of WP:VG, including myself). 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 06:29, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

"Classic science fiction" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Artykuły o polskich politykach

Dzień dobry. Zauważyłem, że na angielskojęzycznej Wikipedii znajduje się pełno artykułów o polskich politykach, które nie mają swoich odpowiedników w plwiki. Są to postacie często o wątpliwej encyklopedyczności, np. Wojciech Papis (lider ruchu z nieistniejącym plwiki), Katarzyna Cichos, (lokalny polityk bez szczególnych osiągnięc), Aldona Skirgiełło (artykuł pełen słów, brak moim zdaniem ency osiągnięć), Romuald Starosielec, Wiesław Lewicki (prezesi ruchów politycznych, skoro ency tu, to czemu nie w pl?). Jako, iż kojarzę Pana z polskojęzycznej Poczekalni i wielokrotnie wypowiadał się tam Pan o enwiki, chciałbym się spytać czy istnienie tych artykułów na enwiki wynika z przeoczenia czy z różnic w zasadach. Z góry dziękuję za odpowiedź. 2A00:F41:802F:D0E6:98F6:5BCC:4C07:C9CF (talk) 14:10, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Witam (polecam rejestrację konta/logowanie, by otrzymywać powiadomienia o odpowiedziach, jak moja tutaj). Co do sprawy - i tak, i tak. Niekiedy temat uznany za nie-ency w jednym projekcie, przetrwa w drugim. Powody są różne: niekiedy w drugim projekcie nikt go nie stworzył, niekiedy nikt go nie zgłosił do kasacji w nim, albo tu i tam był inny konsensus. Są też niekiedy różne zasady (kryteria encyklopedyczności). Np. pl wiki ma zasadę, że każdy kto ma habilitację jest auto-ency. Na en nie ma na to zgody. Tak na szybko zerknąłem na razie na Wojciech Papis i spora szansa, że wyleciałby on z en wiki bo z hasła nie widzę ency. Ale - ktoś to musi zgłosić. Zapraszam do czyszczenia. Najłatwiej z kontem, i podpiąć pod nie WP:TWINKLE i z tego narzędzia zgłasząć. Aha, zapraszam też do watchlistowania i komentowania co tydzień np. na dyskusjach pod Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Poland. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:22, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

WikiCup 2025 May newsletter

The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.

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The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.

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Your GA nomination of The Ugly Black Bird

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The Bugle: Issue 229, May 2025

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BLP Guo Guangchang

Hi Piotrus, I am reaching out to you as a member of WP:BLP. Would you mind weighing in on an edit request that I posted? You'll find it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Guo_Guangchang. The current language about Guo's involvement with the Party General Secretary's anti-corruption efforts is not supported by the sources on the page, and the language in the entire paragraph is speculative with excessive detail. I had a discussion going with another editor, but he hasn't responded in over a month. I would appreciate your opinion here, as I would like to bring this page more in line with WP:BLP standards. Thank you very much. RogerEdit (talk) 12:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jerzy Broszkiewicz

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Books & Bytes – Issue 68

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Social movements task force articles by quality

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 01:57, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Bahnus

Comment. I wonder if something here could be rescued by rewriting this into an article about the music group or the scandal itself? This Korean source, cited in the article, states that "the plagiarism suspicions surrounding singer Lee Hyo-ri's album, which had been causing a stir in the music industry for a month, have been partially confirmed to be true, causing a huge backlash. The expression 'the greatest plagiarism fraud case' is also appearing." This suggests that there are other sources out there - and also, that the article focus should be on the scandal, not the individual (who seems not very notable - we don't even have their birth date or pretty much anything about their life outside this scandal). Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bahnus

Hi, and thanks for your thoughtful comment - and pardon my delayed reply. I haven't been actively involved in Wikipedia editing for a while, and I'm not fully versed in all the platform's formal processes or terminology. Still, I’d like to offer some context that might clarify where I'm coming from.

I originally created the article on Bahnus (Lee Jae-young) because I felt it was necessary to document what remains one of the most significant plagiarism scandals in K-pop history. As you pointed out, the available information on Bahnus is extremely limited — and that in itself is telling. Outside of this scandal, almost nothing is known or documented about him in English, and most Korean sources are difficult for the average editor to verify or even access. The scandal is essentially the defining event associated with his name, and it’s also a critical moment in K-pop’s evolution into a more globalized, scrutinized industry.

You're absolutely right that this case might be better presented through a broader lens - whether that's as a standalone article about the H-Logic plagiarism scandal, or as a properly expanded section within the H-Logic album page or Lee Hyori’s biography. However, what’s happened instead is that the information has been splintered and then steadily eroded.

When I first wrote the Bahnus page, it served as the primary hub for the details of the case. But over time, coverage on Lee Hyori’s page was reduced, the H-Logic section was minimized, and eventually the only reference to the scandal was a link to the Bahnus article - which is now itself being considered for deletion. This effectively removes public visibility of a case that was once widely reported, both in Korean media and (to a lesser degree) in English-language outlets like Allkpop and Soompi. While these are often categorized as "gossip" sites, they were, at the time, among the few outlets reporting consistently on K-pop in English. And mainstream Korean sources did eventually cover the court case once Hyori's agency took legal action against Bahnus.

A further complication is that these sources have become harder to find over time - defunct domains, broken links, and site closures all play a role. But this is all the more reason to preserve what we do have. The producer is obscure, the details are sparse, and the window into this moment in K-pop history is narrow - but that’s precisely why deletion would mean erasing something that can't easily be restored.

I’d also like to acknowledge something that may not be entirely in line with assuming good faith, but which I believe is worth raising: the gradual removal of this controversy from Lee Hyori’s page seems to align with a pattern seen elsewhere on Wikipedia, where negative or controversial information about popular public figures - especially in fan-heavy spaces like K-pop - is quietly minimized over time. I’m not suggesting coordinated whitewashing, but it's not unthinkable that devoted fans might prioritize image over completeness. And given that Lee Hyori went into a multi-year hiatus shortly after the scandal, the controversy faded from mainstream attention.

At this point, I do understand if consensus deems Bahnus himself non-notable - but I strongly believe the scandal itself is. If deletion proceeds, I’d urge editors to at least preserve the historical and contextual value of the case by merging key material into the H-Logic album article or creating a dedicated page on the H-Logic plagiarism scandal. As it stands now, a case once described in Korean press as “the greatest plagiarism fraud in the K-pop industry” has been reduced to a broken link(Bahnus § H-Logic by Lee Hyori) and a single phrase. That’s a disservice to the integrity of documenting music history.

Thanks again for raising a constructive question. I hope this adds useful context to the discussion and the preservation of this documentation. Intouchwithbertj (talk) 17:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

@Intouchwithbertj Thank you for the thoughtful reply. First, the page has been deleted, but you can ask for it to be undeleted and moved to your sandbox, so you could use it to create the article about the scandal (see WP:UNDELETE and ask me for help if necessary). Second, you are likely right about the trend of removal of such information, although I'd assume this is mostly done openly as the community strives to adhere to the WP:BLP and WP:NPOV policies. As for sourcing, hopefully some broken links are accessible through the Internet Archive or such. Other coverage may exist offline (for example, I recently increasingly use offline sources while writing about Polish fantastika topics, as I realized that close to 80% if not more of book reviews and such are not digitized and some are not even indexed in online catalogues). As such, sources for the scandal likely exist - but they are likely 1) in Korean (which I don't speak well) and 2) in Korean magazines or books, many of which are not digitized and require old style library page-turnining queries. I do believe Wikipedia is the best place to cover such topics, but we must adhere to quality-ensuring policies (from aforementioned BLP/NPOV to WP:OR). It is not an easy task (I've been active on Wikipedia for 20 years, I am also a scholar, publishing academic works, and I can say that my research and article writing skills are still improving every year as I learn how to look for better sources, and how to write better, despite being a middle-aged guy with close two two decades of experience in writing). I hope you'll be able to create a good page on this interesting event (scandal), feel free to ask me for any help related to Wikipedia how-to (sadly, due to my limited Korean, I cannot find sources, but I may be able to download some if you find some paywalled that you'd like - I actually work at a Korean university). PS. If you haven't tried, do check the very useful WP:The Wikipedia Library tool. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:44, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Anime and manga fandom in Poland

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Your GA nomination of Anime and manga fandom in Poland

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Unreferenced articles June 2025 backlog drive

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@Shantavira Currently I am not opposed to deletion, since I cannot find good sources for this relic, BUT this is not eligible for PROD due to it having been PRODed and declined before. You'll need to go through AfD. I might even support it. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jerzy Broszkiewicz

Hello! Your submission of Jerzy Broszkiewicz at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Editør (talk) 14:07, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Soviet plunder

Hi, just reviewed your article Soviet plunder. Ping me on the review page, when you have done another QPQ to give it the green light. - Also, you will see that I copyedited quite a lot of grammar, spelling, and formatting of paragraphs. (Single-sentence paragraphs are generally discouraged, and some of your sentences were too long for readability.) But I generally do this while reading anyway, and your article certainly is well sourced and written. ;) - Another suggestion: The lemma seems too general and would, IMHO, benefit from more precision, like "Soviet plunder following WW II". I assume that there were other forms of Soviet plundering, not directly connected to the end of WWII. - Regards, Munfarid1 (talk) 09:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Munfarid1 Tnx for the c/e. I chose the name by analogy to Nazi plunder. And you are likely right; that said, while the article's scope is mostly WWII it's arguably fine to expand it with pre- and post- WWII plunder; I intended it as a parent article for the broader topic. Art plunder should also be separated from industrial plunder (even in WWII context), probably. Although if this is RMoved to Soviet plunder following WW II, I wouldn't object (but I'd point out that the current, WWII focus seems to be also the primary meaning of this topic - Soviets did loot during other conflicts but that's much less famous). And yes, I didn't notice we are in a backlog mode again. 2nd QPQ done. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:26, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your speedy reply, QPQ and explanation of your further plans on this topic. Just given the nom the green light. - Another idea that came to my mind is possibly mentioning the Amber Room in this context. Best, Munfarid1 (talk) 13:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

DYK for The Little Candle

On 24 May 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Little Candle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a science fiction short story from 1939 has been called an "eerie prediction" and "an uncanny, horrifyingly vivid prophecy" of The Holocaust? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Little Candle. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Little Candle), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

1=Launchballer 00:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hook update
Your hook reached 9,752 views (812.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of May 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:28, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

This Month in Education: May 2025

DYK for Soviet plunder

On 28 May 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Soviet plunder, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Soviet trophy brigades systematically looted art and even moved entire factories from Central and Eastern Europe during and after World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Soviet plunder. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Soviet plunder), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cielquiparle (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Hook update
Your hook reached 15,439 views (643.3 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of May 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:29, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Recommendation for your students

@Piotrus:, Hi Piotrus, I am a AfC reviewer from zhwiki and have been reviewing many drafts that seemed to be works from your students at Hanyang University. Unfortunately, as far as I could tell, the majority of them struggles on translations and often find it challenging to either correctly understand the meaning of original English texts or write them comprehensibly in Mandarin, making their drafts repeatingly rejected at AfC. Since I am a Chinese student abroad myself, I can understand how frustrated they may be and definitely want to help them. Since they do not check their talk pages very often, would you like to pass these two pointers from me to them?

  • Choose a relatively short (<10,000 bytes) article to start with so I and other reviewers could walk them sentence by sentence and tell what should be changed in order to get the draft be accepted;
  • Check some existing articles of similiar topics (especially GA/FA) to get some ideas on languages & tones for Wikipedia?

Many thanks in advance. --Mirfaek 23:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

@Mirfaek Thank you for your feedback. In general, what you describe is something I already require from students: see User:Piotrus/Ideas for students (with additional guides linked in "First step") (see also syllabus at tinyurl.com/colint2025). If you have any suggestions for better wording, let me know and I can adjust them (I'll add an activity about reviewing how GA/FA to my list of activities at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hanyangprofessor2, good idea!). That said, I am pretty sure some students won't understand it or simply won't read it, resulting in the problems you noticed. Unfortunately, I don't speak Chinese, so I cannot catch translation problems (I can help them with mode code issues, but not with their language fluency). What I can say, from my end (based on reading the AfC and similar feedback that my students received) is that it would be very helpful to provide specific examples or two of the bad wording used. Just saying "this is a poor machine translation" is not as helpful as "this sentence should read like this: example, example". Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:09, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the quick reply! AFAIK the page you suggested them to read when translate to Chinese ("zh:维基百科:翻譯指引") is not a particularly helpful guideline (it's more like a rulebook for trnaslation). I would recommend to add this one and its subpage to the list. The main page discusses most common mistakes when translating English texts to Chinese, and the subpage adds supplemental examples. Also, would you consider to add me to the list of editors that could be reached for help, review and advice on the "Before you publish" section? I feel it would be helpful if they know someone to contact on zhwiki. --Mirfaek 03:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
@Mirfaek Thanks, done and done. I do direct them to Discord and other tools listed on zh wiki, but not everyone seems to be able or willing to use them, so having another contact will be very good. I assume you are aware of User_talk:Hanyangprofessor2 where I communicate with the students; this is also where they post links to their articles and such. They are also supposed to link them from our outreach dashboard pages, but some of them forget to do so: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Hanyang_University/Sociology_of_Everyday_Life_(2025) and https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Hanyang_University/Collective_Intelligence_and_Wikipedia_(2025) (the primary list is in a spreadsheet, I could give you a link to it through email if you'd like). In addition, students are allowed to do other edits and translations for extra credit, those they can do at will so they are only recorded after the fact (after they report their edits to my talk page). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:18, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Gotcha, many students that I am aware of seems haven't added their drafts to the dashboard, would remind them to do so if you want me to do that.--Mirfaek 00:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Adulting for deletion

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Richard-of-Earth (talk) 01:36, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Peonage (disambiguation)

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DYK for The Dark Domain

On 9 June 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Dark Domain, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Dark Domain was said by one critic to have placed its author "within the canon of supernatural greats"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Dark Domain. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Dark Domain), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Aviators Affair

On 11 June 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aviators Affair, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1946 Aviators Affair saw more than a dozen Soviet air force commanders and aircraft industry officials purged on Stalin's orders? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aviators Affair. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Aviators Affair), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:03, 11 June 2025 (UTC)