Talk:SkyTeam

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Adding in hubs map

Hey all, so I just added in the airport hub map, I'm afraid I'm not an expert at this but I tried my best (I based it off the pre-existing one for Star Alliance). Problem is a lot of the hubs, especially in PRC and USA, are rather close together, so it seems rather messy on a map. Note I also added in secondary hubs as well, but not focus cities. Anyway, I'm not sure if I've done anything wrong, but please say (and maybe correct as well) if I have done something irregular. Thanks all and all the best Essexman03 (talk) 13:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

The hubs included in the map were all unsourced. The map was removed.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi, the hubs might not have been sourced, but two things of note. First, as far as I am aware there is not a place to source in maps, only to give words, coordinates, direction of lettering and so on, not to source. Second, the list of said hubs come from the Wikipedia articles of the airlines themselves. You should find that the hubs of Delta all lie on the map, China Eastern on the map, Aeromexico, Garuda Indonesia and so on. I understand it might not have looked the most formal (my other map of Oneworld I was able to get the grasp of, even if I was unable to do a few extra things on there), but removing it entirely for a lack of sources which Wikipedia sources themselves (and also as far as I am aware one is unable to source on maps), it seems rather extreme if one doesn't mind me stating. I do hope you understand my lack of enthusiasm with this. Many thanks Essexman03 (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

You cannot base your work on other Wikipedia articles. There was a sourced list of hubs in this very article that was removed per WP:NOTRAVEL. The map is the same list in other format.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Very well then, so is there a way you would suggest I would add in hubs so it would comply with the rules? A suggestion would be deeply welcome. Many thanks Essexman03 (talk) 23:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

If properly sourced, the list of hubs should be included in the airline's infobox at each corresponding article.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

None of the other airline alliances have sources with their map. The sources come from each airline page. I don't think that needs to be included in that section. This is being unnecessarily restrictive. The maps give another way to visualize where these alliances operate. Dermoid (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Unsourced claims in one article is not an endorsement for you to make unsourced edits in another one. "The sources come from each airline page" shows that you do not understand WP:VERIFY. Wikipedia is not a reliable source per WP:CIRCULAR.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:09, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Logo

Should we add back the previous SkyTeam logo we had which was the bug logo, there’s now the blockmark AlextheBCOLboy (talk) 00:27, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

"Affiliate members"

I posted a similar topic on Star Alliance but it applies here too. SkyTeam do not publish an official list or criteria for an 'affiliate' member which can make it very hard to source reliably, especially for former affiliates. I did a lot of editing involving the section last year, but have become increasingly more skeptical as I learned more about how Wikipedia functions. Would the entire section be considered WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH and should it be there at all? Cubnorth (talk) 23:43, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

The information included is properly sourced.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

This is where I'm confused though. I previously had my additions to Continental Airlines' affiliates reverted by yourself as original research because the word affiliate wasn't included in the source anywhere. But that's the case for all the sources here.

It's more of an issue on Star Alliance frankly as the sourcing is much flimsier, I just thought I'd put it here too as Oneworld is the only alliance that actually makes it explicitly clear. If we agree the sourcing is fine then that's great. Cubnorth (talk) 14:27, 29 August 2026 (UTC)