Talk:Douglas MacArthur
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Semi-protection is unnecessary
[edit]I am confused as to why this page is semi-protected. Other WW2 era generals, such as George Patton, Omar Bradley, Bernard Montgomery, Friedrich Paulus, and Georgy Zhukov aren't protected. The only other senior commander from WW2 that has some sort of lock is Erwin Rommel, but it's not as tight as this page. Dwight D. Eisenhower is also semi-protected, but he was President as well so it makes more sense. I know MacArthur is somewhat of a controversial figure but so are several of the other generals mentioned here. I am of the opinion that the other senior WW2 commanders be semi-protected, or the lock on this page be removed. ~2026-19789-05 (talk) 01:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Unacceptably high levels of vandalism. The article was indefinitely semi-protected in 2011. Protection was lifted in 2019 and within a few weeks the volume of vandalism was so great that indefinite semi-protection was swiftly re-imposed. The article is a featured article and MacArthur has been dead a long time, so there is little requirement for updates. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:30, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Portrayals in Movies.
[edit]I think there ought to be a section talking about his several portrayals in media, in my view, it's at least relevant for the sheer amount of acclaimed actors that played him in Film, from Gregory Peck to Laurence Olivier, Tommy Lee Jones and Liam Neeson, maybe throw something how he appears in the highly-profitable The Battle at Lake Changjin duology. ~2026-30726-51 (talk) 15:48, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
Requested edits.
[edit]The following edits are requested to be made by a registered user able to edit a locked page:
- In the Early life section, the passage "MacArthur's father and grandfather unsuccessfully sought to secure Douglas a presidential appointment to the United States Military Academy at West Point, first from Grover Cleveland and then from William McKinley; both were rejected", Cleveland and McKinley should be described as American Presidents (as they were not random citizens, nor Congressmen like Otjen, who is identified as such.
- It already says "presidential" appointment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- In the Lunéville-Baccarat Defensive sector heading, "Silver Star" should be wikilinked (as Croix de Guerre was, as well as Medal of Honor.
- In the same section, in the image caption "French General de Bazelaire decorating Colonel Douglas MacArthur with the Croix de Guerre, 18 March 1918", Croix de Guerre should be wikilinked.
- In the section Battle of Saint-Mihiel and Meuse-Argonne offensive the term "(third from left)" in the image caption "General Pershing (second from left) decorates Brigadier General MacArthur (third from left) with the DSC, October 1918. Major General Charles T. Menoher (left) reads out the citation while Colonel George E. Leach (fourth from left) and Lieutenant Colonel William J. Donovan await their decorations" can be deleted, as Pershing is already specifically identified in parentheses and is pinning the medal on MacArthur, so there can be no confusion whom MacArthur is.
Changed as suggested. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- In the same section and same caption ("General Pershing (second from left) decorates Brigadier General MacArthur (third from left) with the DSC, October 1918. Major General Charles T. Menoher (left) reads out the citation while Colonel George E. Leach (fourth from left) and Lieutenant Colonel William J. Donovan await their decorations.") the identification of Colonel Leach as "(fourth from left)" can be eliminated. Every one to his left will have been identified, and only he and Colonel Donovan remain. It is customary in image captions (barring overriding considerations) for figures to be identified from left to right, the way the English language is written and read. Thus the convention (when only two men are left, both standing to the right of MacArthur) is for them to be presumed to be in left-to-right order. Leach, then Donovan. In addition, both men are linked to articles with their photos.
~2026-15788-89 (talk) 22:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- Okay as it is; no ambiguity. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Field Marshal is the correct rank
[edit]MacArther was appointed Field Marshal of the Philippine Army in 1936. So, his correct rank is Field Marshal Philippine Army /5 Star General US Army. ~2026-37577-95 (talk) 05:03, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
- Doesn't the article say that? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:13, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
Date format
[edit]Curiously, this FA uses British date format (day, month, year) instead of the American one (month, day, year) specified in the template "{{Use American English}}" Billsmith60 (talk) 22:33, 2 October 2026 (UTC)
- It uses the American military format. WP:MILFORMAT:
articles (including biographical articles) on the modern US military should use DMY dates, in accordance with US military usage.
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:22, 3 October 2026 (UTC)
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