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IDLE right click outside of any selection should clear it #84066

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@terryjreedy
terryjreedy
opened on Mar 7, 2020
BPO 39885
Nosy @terryjreedy, @miss-islington
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  • bpo-39885: IDLE context menu clears selection  #18859
  • [3.8] bpo-39885: IDLE context menu clears selection (GH-18859) #18860
  • [3.7] bpo-39885: IDLE context menu clears selection (GH-18859) #18861
  • bpo-39885: IDLE: Leave selection when right click within #18951
  • [3.9] bpo-39885: Make IDLE context menu cut and copy work again (GH-18951) #20522
  • [3.8] bpo-39885: Make IDLE context menu cut and copy work again (GH-18951) #20523
  • [3.7] bpo-39885: Make IDLE context menu cut and copy work again (GH-18951) #20524
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    assignee = 'https://github.com/terryjreedy'
closed_at = <Date 2020-05-29.23:31:23.218>
created_at = <Date 2020-03-07.05:08:09.444>
labels = ['type-bug', '3.8', '3.9', '3.10', 'expert-IDLE', '3.7']
title = 'IDLE right click outside of any selection should clear it'
updated_at = <Date 2020-05-29.23:31:23.216>
user = 'https://github.com/terryjreedy'

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assignee = 'terry.reedy'
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closed_date = <Date 2020-05-29.23:31:23.218>
closer = 'terry.reedy'
components = ['IDLE']
creation = <Date 2020-03-07.05:08:09.444>
creator = 'terry.reedy'
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issue_num = 39885
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nosy_names = ['terry.reedy', 'miss-islington']
pr_nums = ['18859', '18860', '18861', '18951', '20522', '20523', '20524']
priority = 'normal'
resolution = 'fixed'
stage = 'resolved'
status = 'closed'
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type = 'behavior'
url = 'https://bugs.python.org/issue39885'
versions = ['Python 3.7', 'Python 3.8', 'Python 3.9', 'Python 3.10']

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    1. terryjreedy commented on Mar 7, 2020

      @terryjreedy
      terryjreedy
      on Mar 7, 2020
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      In text editors, right click commonly brings up a context menu, often including Cut, Copy, Paste, and Delete, with inapplicable entries grayed out. There are at least 2 'standard' behaviors (at least on Windows) with respect to the cursor and selections.

      0 (Examples: Windows Notepad and Firefox entry box). The cursor stays where it is and a selection stays selected, even if one has scrolled the cursor and possible selection off the screen with mousewheel or scrollbar. Paste inserts at the possibly hidden cursor, deleting any possibly hidden selection. The view jumps back to the cursor after Paste but not after Copy and Close (Esc).

      1 (Examples: Windows Notepad++ and Libre Office). The cursor jumps to the spot of the click, the same as with a left click. Any selection, possibly not visible, is unselected, the same as with a left click. Exception: a right click within an exception leaves the selection and cursor (at one of the ends) alone.

      IDLE follows a bit of each pattern and neither. Right click always moves the cursor, even within a selection, but never clears a selection. I believe that this is an accident of history. Originally, context menus only had 'Go to file/line' in Shell and grep output and 'Set/Clear Breakpoint' in editors. There was no reason to touch a selection even if the cursor was moved. Cut/Copy/Paste were added in 2012 because they are standard.

      To really be standard, right click should consistently act like left click and unselect. This prevents accidental deletion. This would also be consistent with making 'Go to line' act the same.

      Also, right click within a selection should not move the cursor.

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    7. terryjreedy commented on Mar 7, 2020

      @terryjreedy
      terryjreedy
      on Mar 7, 2020
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      Spinoff from bpo-39852. At least the selection clear code added there should be pulled into a module level function and tested.

    8. terryjreedy commented on Mar 7, 2020

      @terryjreedy
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      on Mar 7, 2020
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      (Mozilla) Thunderbird, unlike (Mozilla) Firefox, has move/clear right clicks.

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      closed this as completedon Mar 8, 2020

    11. terryjreedy commented on Mar 12, 2020

      @terryjreedy
      terryjreedy
      on Mar 12, 2020
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      Restore not clearing the selection when click within it. See Exception in 1 above. Users need to continue to see what will be copied or cut (which also happens with paste).

      The breakpoint toggle and goto file/line options on the context menu need the line number of the click. If the cursor is not moved, another alternative is needed.

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      reopened this on Mar 12, 2020
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    14. terryjreedy
      changed the title [-]IDLE right click should clear any selection[/-] [+]IDLE right click outside of any selection should clear it[/+] on Mar 12, 2020
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      changed the title [-]IDLE right click should clear any selection[/-] [+]IDLE right click outside of any selection should clear it[/+] on Mar 12, 2020

    16. terryjreedy commented on May 29, 2020

      @terryjreedy
      terryjreedy
      on May 29, 2020
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      New changeset 97e4e0f by Terry Jan Reedy in branch 'master':
      bpo-39885: Make IDLE context menu cut and copy work again (GH-18951)
      97e4e0f

    17. miss-islington commented on May 29, 2020

      @miss-islington
      miss-islington
      on May 29, 2020
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      New changeset 80b6a05 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.7':
      bpo-39885: Make IDLE context menu cut and copy work again (GH-18951)
      80b6a05

    18. miss-islington commented on May 29, 2020

      @miss-islington
      miss-islington
      on May 29, 2020
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      New changeset 3dcccd1 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.8':
      bpo-39885: Make IDLE context menu cut and copy work again (GH-18951)
      3dcccd1

    19. miss-islington commented on May 29, 2020

      @miss-islington
      miss-islington
      on May 29, 2020
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      New changeset 9f3f70f by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.9':
      bpo-39885: Make IDLE context menu cut and copy work again (GH-18951)
      9f3f70f

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