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_decimal difference with _pydecimal #73720

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@arigo
mannequin
BPO 29534
Nosy @arigo, @rhettinger, @mdickinson, @skrah, @andrewnester
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  • bpo-29534: _decimal difference with _pydecimal #65
  • [Do Not Merge] Sample of CPython life with blurb. #703
  • [Do Not Merge] Convert Misc/NEWS so that it is managed by towncrier #552
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    assignee = None
    closed_at = <Date 2017-02-14.19:21:21.159>
    created_at = <Date 2017-02-11.13:54:15.001>
    labels = ['type-bug', '3.7']
    title = '_decimal difference with _pydecimal'
    updated_at = <Date 2017-03-31.17:09:42.520>
    user = 'https://github.com/arigo'

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    activity = <Date 2017-03-31.17:09:42.520>
    actor = 'skrah'
    assignee = 'none'
    closed = True
    closed_date = <Date 2017-02-14.19:21:21.159>
    closer = 'mark.dickinson'
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    creation = <Date 2017-02-11.13:54:15.001>
    creator = 'arigo'
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    issue_num = 29534
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    nosy_count = 5.0
    nosy_names = ['arigo', 'rhettinger', 'mark.dickinson', 'skrah', 'andrewnester']
    pr_nums = ['65', '703', '552']
    priority = 'normal'
    resolution = 'fixed'
    stage = 'resolved'
    status = 'closed'
    superseder = None
    type = 'behavior'
    url = 'https://bugs.python.org/issue29534'
    versions = ['Python 3.5', 'Python 3.7']

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    1. arigo commented on Feb 11, 2017

      arigomannequin
      MannequinAuthor

      A difference in behavior between _decimal and _pydecimal (it seems that _decimal is more consistent in this case):

          class X(Decimal):
              def __init__(self, a):
                  print('__init__:', a)
          X.from_float(42.5)   # __init__: Decimal('42.5')
      
          X.from_float(42)     # with _pydecimal: __init__: 42
                               # with _decimal:   __init__: Decimal('42')
    2. skrah commented on Feb 11, 2017

      skrahmannequin
      Mannequin

      I get the the same output, perhaps I misunderstand something here:

      >>> from _decimal import *
      >>> class X(Decimal):
      ...         def __init__(self, a):
      ...             print('__init__:', a)
      ... 
      >>> X.from_float(42.5)
      __init__: 42.5
      Decimal('42.5')
      >>> X.from_float(42)
      __init__: 42
      Decimal('42')
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >>> from _pydecimal import *
      >>> class X(Decimal):
      ...         def __init__(self, a):
      ...             print('__init__:', a)
      ... 
      >>> X.from_float(42.5) 
      __init__: 42.5
      Decimal('42.5')
      >>> X.from_float(42) 
      __init__: 42
      Decimal('42')
    3. arigo commented on Feb 11, 2017

      arigomannequin
      MannequinAuthor

      Sorry! It should be repr(a) inside the print. Here is the fixed version:

          class X(Decimal):
              def __init__(self, a):
                  print('__init__:', repr(a))
          X.from_float(42.5)   # __init__: Decimal('42.5')
      
          X.from_float(42)     # with _pydecimal: __init__: 42
                               # with _decimal:   __init__: Decimal('42')
    4. andrewnester commented on Feb 13, 2017

      andrewnestermannequin
      Mannequin

      I've just added PR for this issue.

    5. mdickinson commented on Feb 13, 2017

      @mdickinson
      Member

      Is there an observable difference in user behaviour if no subclassing of Decimal is involved? Or does this just affect Decimal subclasses?

    6. mdickinson commented on Feb 13, 2017

      @mdickinson
      Member

      BTW, as a user, I'd expect Decimal.from_float to simply coerce its input to float if given an input that isn't actually a float in the first place; the fact that it has special handling in place for int inputs (and that that special handling takes the form of an isinstance check, rather than something more duck-typed) is surprising.

    7. andrewnester commented on Feb 13, 2017

      andrewnestermannequin
      Mannequin

      actually, it's more related to subclassing, because the problem comes from the fact that before the fix __init__ method receives value as int not Decimal if int passed to from_float call.
      That's why only subclasses of Decimal can see difference in arguments received by __init__

    8. andrewnester commented on Feb 13, 2017

      andrewnestermannequin
      Mannequin

      Agree about surprising behaviour but I guess it's better to fix it as other issue because it could break BC in some cases. At least it needs to be investigated.

      For now I would like to stick with same behaviour for _decimal and _pydecimal

    9. mdickinson commented on Feb 13, 2017

      @mdickinson
      Member

      [Andrew]

      it's better to fix it as other issue

      No, it's better not to "fix" it at all. :-) It's one of those many behaviour changes where the answer to "Should we have done this differently in the first place" might possibly be "Yes" (and might also be "No"), but the answer to "Should we *change* it now" is a definite "No" (especially given that the "from_float" method is there almost entirely for backwards compatibility). I shouldn't have brought it up. Apologies.

    10. andrewnester commented on Feb 13, 2017

      andrewnestermannequin
      Mannequin

      thanks for your notes, it's absolutely fine and I agree with you :)

    11. mdickinson commented on Feb 14, 2017

      @mdickinson
      Member

      PR merged; thank you!

      Unfortunately, just after I merged it I noticed that the Misc/NEWS entry was in the wrong section. I'll make a new PR to fix that, and close this issue once it's done.

    12. mdickinson commented on Feb 14, 2017

      @mdickinson
      Member

      PR to fix the Misc/NEWS entry: #99

    13. mdickinson commented on Feb 14, 2017

      @mdickinson
      Member

      All done. Closing. (In theory, as a bugfix, this could be backported to 3.5 and 3.6. In practice, I doubt it's worth the effort.)

    14. skrah commented on Mar 31, 2017

      skrahmannequin
      Mannequin

      Does anyone know how to disable the spurious pull requests that keep coming in?

    15. transferred this issue fromon Apr 10, 2022
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