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Mac OS X locale setup in thread happens sometime after run() is called #67985
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assignee=Noneclosed_at=<Date2020-10-23.19:34:57.196>created_at=<Date2015-03-28.10:47:55.510>labels= ['OS-mac', 'type-bug']
title='Mac OS X locale setup in thread happens sometime after run() is called'updated_at=<Date2020-10-23.19:34:57.196>user='https://github.com/barry-scott'
I'm seeing a random traceback when starting a new thread on Mac OS X 10.10.2 with python 3.4.3 final.
Exception in thread Thread-1:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/threading.py", line 920, in _bootstrap_innerself.run()
File "/Users/barry/wc/svn/pysvn-phoenix/WorkBench/Source/wb_background_thread.py", line 40, in runself.app.log.info( 'BackgroundThread locale %r'% (locale.getlocale(),) )
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/locale.py", line 575, in getlocalereturn _parse_localename(localename)
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/locale.py", line 484, in _parse_localenameraiseValueError('unknown locale: %s'% localename)
ValueError: unknown locale: UTF-8
Adding a time.sleep( 5 ) prevents the traceback.
Using _locale.setlocale( locale.LC_ALL, None ) to see the state with locale.py interfering it looks like the locale is being initialised in the thread after run() is called. (Make no sense to me, but I can reproduce).
I have failed to create a small script to show this bug.
The behavior noted in bpo-18378 isn't an Apple bug; it's a GNU vs BSD difference. Can you avoid the problem by calling locale.getlocale() in the main program before creating any threads?
barry-scott commented on Mar 29, 2015
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I should point out using Python2.7 with wxPython I do not see this issue.
This issue was exposed during my efforts to port pysvn from py2.7+wxPython to py3.4+wxpython-phoenix.
I do setup locale on the main thread very early before starting the background thread.
I have attached the initLocale() I use.
The background thread needs the locale setup and I use getlocale() to prove that it is setup.
I do not see this as a duplicate of bpo-18378 as I can init the locale.
The problem, and I could believe its an OSX bug, is that new threads do not return the expected locale from _locale.setlocale() for a period of time, approx 2s after starting up.
I've been using the scriptlet below to try to attempt to reproduce the problem. I'm not sure if this matches the way the program of the OP is set up.
The scriptlet below works for me without problems (macOS 10.15, Python 3.4 - 3.9).
This either means the problem has been fixed in the meantime (if it was an OS bug), or my script doesn't reproduce the problematic setup.
The traceback in the first message is due to LC_CTYPE=UTF-8 in the default shell environment on macOS, which wasn't recognised by locale.py for a long time. That issue has been fixed though.
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barry-scott commentedon Mar 28, 2015
I'm seeing a random traceback when starting a new thread on Mac OS X 10.10.2 with python 3.4.3 final.
Adding a time.sleep( 5 ) prevents the traceback.
Using _locale.setlocale( locale.LC_ALL, None ) to see the state with locale.py interfering it looks like the locale is being initialised in the thread after run() is called. (Make no sense to me, but I can reproduce).
I have failed to create a small script to show this bug.
bitdancer commentedon Mar 28, 2015
This is probably related to or effectively a duplicate of bpo-18378, which looks to be an Apple bug.
Do you have the problem if you remove the getlocale() call?
ned-deily commentedon Mar 28, 2015
The behavior noted in bpo-18378 isn't an Apple bug; it's a GNU vs BSD difference. Can you avoid the problem by calling locale.getlocale() in the main program before creating any threads?
barry-scott commentedon Mar 29, 2015
I should point out using Python2.7 with wxPython I do not see this issue.
This issue was exposed during my efforts to port pysvn from py2.7+wxPython to py3.4+wxpython-phoenix.
I do setup locale on the main thread very early before starting the background thread.
I have attached the initLocale() I use.
The background thread needs the locale setup and I use getlocale() to prove that it is setup.
I do not see this as a duplicate of bpo-18378 as I can init the locale.
The problem, and I could believe its an OSX bug, is that new threads do not return the expected locale from _locale.setlocale() for a period of time, approx 2s after starting up.
ronaldoussoren commentedon Oct 23, 2020
I've been using the scriptlet below to try to attempt to reproduce the problem. I'm not sure if this matches the way the program of the OP is set up.
The scriptlet below works for me without problems (macOS 10.15, Python 3.4 - 3.9).
This either means the problem has been fixed in the meantime (if it was an OS bug), or my script doesn't reproduce the problematic setup.
The traceback in the first message is due to LC_CTYPE=UTF-8 in the default shell environment on macOS, which wasn't recognised by locale.py for a long time. That issue has been fixed though.
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ronaldoussoren commentedon Oct 23, 2020
I'm closing this issue as "works for me". Please re-open if there is more information on how to reproduce the problem.