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assignee='https://github.com/terryjreedy'closed_at=<Date2015-10-12.02:13:10.134>created_at=<Date2014-10-25.04:46:23.840>labels= ['expert-IDLE', 'type-feature']
title='Idle: add help to config dialogs'updated_at=<Date2019-03-21.18:19:30.056>user='https://github.com/terryjreedy'
At one time, ConfigDialog was given a do-nothing Help button. It was diabled a couple of years ago. This patch restores it for both config dialogs, displaying a text appropriate for both. There are separate functions in anticipation of dialog-specific content. For both, there is the issue of when changes take effect (bpo-22707). For extensions, there might be extension-specific help (bpo-22705).
This patch does two things: 1. restore the Help button and make it display something; 2. lower case the method names. The latter is a separate issue, best done in a new file. What is needed for bpo-25313 is tab-specific text.
Also, now that Config Extenstion uses a list rather than tabs, it couldn be added as a tab to the main dialog, and only one set of button event handlers would be needed. Tab-specific text would be needed first.
roseman commented on Oct 6, 2015
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I'm not against online help, but I feel that what's there wouldn't be helpful to someone using IDLE.
Once this would be extended to per-tab, what are the problem areas that people really need help with? Also keeping in mind we're going to be replacing this dialog (at least for people with tk > 8.4) in the not too distant future.
I rewrote the common section to explain what the button do. I did not modify the extensions dialog because I want to finish bpo-24782. bpo-22707 may add more.
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terryjreedy commentedon Oct 25, 2014
At one time, ConfigDialog was given a do-nothing Help button. It was diabled a couple of years ago. This patch restores it for both config dialogs, displaying a text appropriate for both. There are separate functions in anticipation of dialog-specific content. For both, there is the issue of when changes take effect (bpo-22707). For extensions, there might be extension-specific help (bpo-22705).
terryjreedy commentedon Oct 6, 2015
This patch does two things: 1. restore the Help button and make it display something; 2. lower case the method names. The latter is a separate issue, best done in a new file. What is needed for bpo-25313 is tab-specific text.
Also, now that Config Extenstion uses a list rather than tabs, it couldn be added as a tab to the main dialog, and only one set of button event handlers would be needed. Tab-specific text would be needed first.
roseman commentedon Oct 6, 2015
I'm not against online help, but I feel that what's there wouldn't be helpful to someone using IDLE.
Once this would be extended to per-tab, what are the problem areas that people really need help with? Also keeping in mind we're going to be replacing this dialog (at least for people with tk > 8.4) in the not too distant future.
python-dev commentedon Oct 12, 2015
New changeset fd41b05b8227 by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '2.7':
Issue bpo-22726: Re-activate config dialog help button with some content about
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/fd41b05b8227
New changeset 01f83efcc44b by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '3.4':
Issue bpo-22726: Re-activate config dialog help button with some content about
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/01f83efcc44b
terryjreedy commentedon Oct 12, 2015
I rewrote the common section to explain what the button do. I did not modify the extensions dialog because I want to finish bpo-24782. bpo-22707 may add more.