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os.urandom() should use Linux 3.17 getrandom() syscall #66377
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title='os.urandom() should use Linux 3.17 getrandom() syscall'updated_at=<Date2015-03-30.11:42:45.851>user='https://github.com/vstinner'
The code is currently disabled with "#if 0". The syscall is directly used, the function doesn't handle the ENOSYS error.
See also this issue of the cryptography project, "Use getentropy(2) and getrandom(2) syscalls when available 1299": pyca/cryptography#1299
700eb415 commented on Oct 2, 2014
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It's worth noting that LibreSSL has now enabled the blocked code. If anyone is interested, I would be willing to help port it.
anandjeyahar commented on Oct 6, 2014
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Hi,
This will need latest kernel to develop, fix and test. I (on Debian 7) couldn't find the latest kernel, but picked up ubuntu kernel from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.17-rc7-utopic/. I picked up the latest i.e: linux-image-3.17.0-031700rc7-generic_3.17.0-031700rc7.201409281835_amd64.deb and installed manually, but couldn't find the getrandom() function call either in stdlib.h or linux/random.h.
Can anyone confirm it's availability in a kernel image (from some other distribution?).
neologix commented on Oct 6, 2014
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Note that I'm not fussed about it: far from simplifying the code, it
will make it more complex, thus more error-prone.
Let's not be early adopters here. I suggest we wait until glibc has a proper interface.
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OpenBSD already provides high quality pseudorandom numbers from arc4random(). I don't think this would make us "early adopters" since it has been around for some time on this platform.
It's also worth mentioning that getentropy() is not recommended in use for normal code as per stated in the man page. arc4random() is recommended, but there may be a reason the first poster has recommended getentropy()
As I said on the other ticket, using arc4random() indiscriminately would be a very poor idea, on some platforms (such as OS X) arc4random() really does use ARC4, which means there are serious security concerns with it.
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While I agree it may not be wise to use arc4random() globally, OpenBSD is unlikely to create a duplicate interface since it's already available.
Python is currently unusable in chroots on that platform without reducing the security of the host partition by removing the nodev mount flag.
I feel like there must be a good solution to this.
Since this is a Linux-specific issue (see the title), you should create a separate issue for OpenBSD support. Bonus points if you want to submit a patch as well :-)
This issue is specific to Linux: it depends on the Linux kernel version and we are waiting until the new syscall is available in the C library (especially the glibc). For these reasons, I prefer to open a new specific issue for OpenBSD, since they release the kernel and C library at the same time (different release process): issue bpo-22585. OpenBSD 5.6 scheduled in one month will get the new getentropy() syscall and a new getentropy() function at the same time.
Here is a patch to use the new getrandom() syscall of Linux 3.17 in the Python function os.urandom().
The function falls back to reading /dev/urandom if getrandom() is not supported (returns ENOSYS at runtime).
On my Linux 3.18, the EINTR path is never taken. But I was able to test it manually by setting flags to GRND_RANDOM (2) and injecting many signals using signal.setitimer(): see my http://bugs.python.org/issue23285#msg237100
Oh, test_os now fails on Linux because os.urandom() doesn't use a file descriptor anymore. The test should be skipped when getrandom() is used. The test is already skipped when getentropy() is used.
New changeset 4491bdb6527b by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue bpo-22181: The availability of the getrandom() is now checked in configure, https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4491bdb6527b
You forgot to run aclocal, which resulted in PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG not being expanded in configure.
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vstinner commentedon Aug 10, 2014
The future Linux kernel 3.17 will have a new getrandom() syscall which avoids the need of a file descriptor:
http://lwn.net/Articles/606141/
The file descriptor of os.urandom() causes perfomance issues and surprising bugs: bpo-18756, bpo-21207.
I don't know when the function will land in the libc.
OpenBSD 5.6 (not released yet) will also have a new getentropy() syscall.
For Python 2.7, see also the PEP-466 and the issue bpo-21305.
vstinner commentedon Aug 15, 2014
Manual page of the OpenBSD getentropy() function:
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man2/getentropy.2
LibreSSL didn't wait for the libc, search for getentropy_getrandom():
http://openbsd.cs.toronto.edu/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/lib/libcrypto/crypto/getentropy_linux.c?rev=1.32&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
The code is currently disabled with "#if 0". The syscall is directly used, the function doesn't handle the ENOSYS error.
See also this issue of the cryptography project, "Use getentropy(2) and getrandom(2) syscalls when available 1299":
pyca/cryptography#1299
700eb415 commentedon Oct 2, 2014
It's worth noting that LibreSSL has now enabled the blocked code. If anyone is interested, I would be willing to help port it.
anandjeyahar commentedon Oct 6, 2014
Hi,
This will need latest kernel to develop, fix and test. I (on Debian 7) couldn't find the latest kernel, but picked up ubuntu kernel from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.17-rc7-utopic/. I picked up the latest i.e: linux-image-3.17.0-031700rc7-generic_3.17.0-031700rc7.201409281835_amd64.deb and installed manually, but couldn't find the getrandom() function call either in stdlib.h or linux/random.h.
Can anyone confirm it's availability in a kernel image (from some other distribution?).
neologix commentedon Oct 6, 2014
Note that I'm not fussed about it: far from simplifying the code, it
will make it more complex, thus more error-prone.
vstinner commentedon Oct 6, 2014
The Linux kernel 3.17 has been released with the new getrandom() syscall.
glibc request to implement the function in the C library:
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17252
"Bug 17252 - getrandom and getentropy syscall"
It looks like nobody asks for it on the libc-alpha mailing list yet.
tiran commentedon Oct 8, 2014
Let's not be early adopters here. I suggest we wait until glibc has a proper interface.
700eb415 commentedon Oct 8, 2014
OpenBSD already provides high quality pseudorandom numbers from arc4random(). I don't think this would make us "early adopters" since it has been around for some time on this platform.
It's also worth mentioning that getentropy() is not recommended in use for normal code as per stated in the man page. arc4random() is recommended, but there may be a reason the first poster has recommended getentropy()
pitrou commentedon Oct 8, 2014
This issue is about Linux support. Does the glibc have arc4random? I can't find it on my Ubuntu 13.10 system.
alex commentedon Oct 8, 2014
As I said on the other ticket, using arc4random() indiscriminately would be a very poor idea, on some platforms (such as OS X) arc4random() really does use ARC4, which means there are serious security concerns with it.
700eb415 commentedon Oct 8, 2014
While I agree it may not be wise to use arc4random() globally, OpenBSD is unlikely to create a duplicate interface since it's already available.
Python is currently unusable in chroots on that platform without reducing the security of the host partition by removing the nodev mount flag.
I feel like there must be a good solution to this.
pitrou commentedon Oct 8, 2014
Since this is a Linux-specific issue (see the title), you should create a separate issue for OpenBSD support. Bonus points if you want to submit a patch as well :-)
vstinner commentedon Oct 9, 2014
This issue is specific to Linux: it depends on the Linux kernel version and we are waiting until the new syscall is available in the C library (especially the glibc). For these reasons, I prefer to open a new specific issue for OpenBSD, since they release the kernel and C library at the same time (different release process): issue bpo-22585. OpenBSD 5.6 scheduled in one month will get the new getentropy() syscall and a new getentropy() function at the same time.
vstinner commentedon Oct 9, 2014
700eb415 opened the issue bpo-22542 for arc4random().
vstinner commentedon Mar 3, 2015
Commit in the Linux kernel:
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=c6e9d6f38894798696f23c8084ca7edbf16ee895
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Here is a patch to use the new getrandom() syscall of Linux 3.17 in the Python function os.urandom().
The function falls back to reading /dev/urandom if getrandom() is not supported (returns ENOSYS at runtime).
On my Linux 3.18, the EINTR path is never taken. But I was able to test it manually by setting flags to GRND_RANDOM (2) and injecting many signals using signal.setitimer(): see my http://bugs.python.org/issue23285#msg237100
vstinner commentedon Mar 4, 2015
random-2.patch: updated patch (I don't understand why random.patch doesn't apply cleanly).
python-dev commentedon Mar 18, 2015
New changeset 1fc32bf069ff by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue bpo-22181: On Linux, os.urandom() now uses the new getrandom() syscall if
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/1fc32bf069ff
vstinner commentedon Mar 19, 2015
Oh, test_os now fails on Linux because os.urandom() doesn't use a file descriptor anymore. The test should be skipped when getrandom() is used. The test is already skipped when getentropy() is used.
python-dev commentedon Mar 19, 2015
New changeset 4491bdb6527b by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue bpo-22181: The availability of the getrandom() is now checked in configure,
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4491bdb6527b
python-dev commentedon Mar 19, 2015
New changeset 8c73af0b3cd9 by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue bpo-22181: Fix dev_urandom_noraise(), try calling py_getrandom() before
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8c73af0b3cd9
Arfrever commentedon Mar 20, 2015
You forgot to run aclocal, which resulted in PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG not being expanded in configure.
python-dev commentedon Mar 20, 2015
New changeset b8ceb071159f by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue bpo-22181: Run "aclocal; autoconf; autoheader" to regenerate configure
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/b8ceb071159f
python-dev commentedon Mar 30, 2015
New changeset 28b465d8c519 by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue bpo-22181: os.urandom() now releases the GIL when the getrandom()
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/28b465d8c519