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Separate compilation of time and datetime modules #53258
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assignee=Noneclosed_at=<Date2014-06-22.07:57:17.462>created_at=<Date2010-06-16.15:46:52.636>labels= ['OS-windows', 'performance']
title='Separate compilation of time and datetime modules'updated_at=<Date2014-06-22.07:57:17.460>user='https://github.com/abalkin'
So it's clearly intentional. I doubt its desirable, though. If only
__PyTime_DoubleToTimet needs to be duplicated, I'd rather put that
function into a separate C file that gets included twice, instead of including the full timemodule.c into datetimemodule.c.
"""
-- "Sharing functions between C extension modules in stdlib", http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-June/100587.html
I hope this is non-controversial, but I would like someone to comment on the choice of file name. I chose _timefunc.c to make it more distinguishable from module file names. Ideally, however I would like to see this in either _time.h/_time.c pair (both in Module dir like _math.{c,h}) or in pytime.h/pytime.c (like pymath.{c,h}).
Marking this as "resource usage" because the patch will result in smaller size of datetime module.
Based on IRC discussion, here is a modified patch that places C code in _time.c and creates a stub for _time.h so that future shared definitions can go there.
I am merging in the nosy list from bpo-9079 after we had a lengthy discussion there and on IRC about the best way to share code between stdlib extension modules.
For the bpo-9079, we decided to bring the shared code into python core, but this cannot be a general solution. I still don't see any solution other than exposing C API via a capsule mechanism, but Antoine objected saying that capsule mechanism is for 3rd party modules and should not be used in stdlib.
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Added patch that replicates the change in r82035 for Visual Studio 2005 (VC8) builds.
What about PC/VS7.1/pythoncore.vcproj? Is there some automation in place to keep the project files in sync? ISTM, all the info to generate these should be in setup.py.
The patch looks good, but I am hesitant to commit changes that I cannot test.
No, there's no automated way to keep "legacy" Windows toolchains in sync; short of adopting something like Scons or CMAKE (which I'm *not* suggesting) I don't think I've seen a trustworthy way of doing so.
The PCBuild's "readme.txt" states:
"You can find build directories for older versions of Visual Studio and Visual C++ in the PC directory. The legacy build directories are no longer actively maintained and may not work out of the box."
To date, I believe that the attitude toward these older build files has been "unsupported; use at own risk; patches welcome".
To date, I believe that the attitude toward these older build files has been
"unsupported; use at own risk; patches welcome".
OK, I guess there is little risk in committing this patch. I'll do it
later this week unless someone who actually knows anything about VC8
beats me to it. :-)
time.diff - a hack that makes _time.c look like a module while it is not.
add_time_to_vc8_build.diff - a patch for VC 8.0 project file.
I don't like time.diff because it fixes the symptom rather than the core problem. I believe the code that is shared between C modules should be segregated into a true module which would expose its C API via capsule mechanism. Others suggested that this is an overkill and that capsule mechanism is not suitable for the stdlib. On the latter argument, I would like to point that unicodedata already uses capsule mechanism to make itself available to Python's builtin str type.
As I mentioned in msg109219, this situation is not unique to time/datetime. The math and cmath modules similarly use linker tricks to share code in _math.c.
Unassigning because I don't have an informed opinion on add_time_to_vc8_build.diff and cannot move the _time.c issue forward until similar problem is solved for _math.c which I used as the basis for _time.c design.
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abalkin commentedon Jun 16, 2010
Here is the history of the issue per Martin v. Löwis on python-dev:
"""
This was added with
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r36221 | bcannon | 2004-06-24 03:38:47 +0200 (Do, 24. Jun 2004) | 3 Zeilen
Add compilation of timemodule.c with datetimemodule.c to get
__PyTime_DoubleToTimet().
------------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's clearly intentional. I doubt its desirable, though. If only
__PyTime_DoubleToTimet needs to be duplicated, I'd rather put that
function into a separate C file that gets included twice, instead of including the full timemodule.c into datetimemodule.c.
"""
-- "Sharing functions between C extension modules in stdlib", http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-June/100587.html
I hope this is non-controversial, but I would like someone to comment on the choice of file name. I chose _timefunc.c to make it more distinguishable from module file names. Ideally, however I would like to see this in either _time.h/_time.c pair (both in Module dir like _math.{c,h}) or in pytime.h/pytime.c (like pymath.{c,h}).
Marking this as "resource usage" because the patch will result in smaller size of datetime module.
abalkin commentedon Jun 16, 2010
Based on IRC discussion, here is a modified patch that places C code in _time.c and creates a stub for _time.h so that future shared definitions can go there.
abalkin commentedon Jun 16, 2010
Added new Module/_time.h to the patch.
abalkin commentedon Jun 16, 2010
Committed in r82034.
vstinner commentedon Jun 16, 2010
Reopen: r82034 broke Windows build
http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/builders/x86%20Windows7%203.x/builds/802/steps/compile/logs/stdio
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Build started: Project: pythoncore, Configuration: Debug|Win32
Linking...
Creating library D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows7\build\PCbuild\python32_d.lib and object D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows7\build\PCbuild\python32_d.exp
datetimemodule.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __PyTime_DoubleToTimet referenced in function _date_local_from_time_t
timemodule.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol __PyTime_DoubleToTimet
D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows7\build\PCbuild\\python32_d.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
Build log was saved at "file://D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows7\build\PCbuild\Win32-temp-Debug\pythoncore\BuildLog.htm"
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vstinner commentedon Jun 16, 2010
Fixed by r82035.
doko42 commentedon Jul 4, 2010
this breaks the build if the time and datetime extensions are built statically into the python interpreter.
The build fails with a link error; adding the _time extension to Modules/Setup.dist
you get another link error:
libpython3.2.a(config.o):(.data+0x58): undefined reference to `PyInit__time'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
because _time isn't a proper extension.
raising the severity as this is a regression
doko42 commentedon Jul 4, 2010
please find attached a patch to build as a statically linked extension, registering the empty _time module.
abalkin commentedon Jul 4, 2010
_time.c is not supposed to be compiled into an extension. It is similar to _math.c - if you add a line
_math _math.c
to Setup, you get a similar compile error. What needs to be done, however, is to add _time.c to time and datetime lines. See issue9012a.diff.
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abalkin commentedon Jul 17, 2010
I am merging in the nosy list from bpo-9079 after we had a lengthy discussion there and on IRC about the best way to share code between stdlib extension modules.
For the bpo-9079, we decided to bring the shared code into python core, but this cannot be a general solution. I still don't see any solution other than exposing C API via a capsule mechanism, but Antoine objected saying that capsule mechanism is for 3rd party modules and should not be used in stdlib.
tlesher commentedon Jul 21, 2010
Added patch that replicates the change in r82035 for Visual Studio 2005 (VC8) builds.
abalkin commentedon Jul 21, 2010
What about PC/VS7.1/pythoncore.vcproj? Is there some automation in place to keep the project files in sync? ISTM, all the info to generate these should be in setup.py.
The patch looks good, but I am hesitant to commit changes that I cannot test.
tlesher commentedon Jul 21, 2010
No, there's no automated way to keep "legacy" Windows toolchains in sync; short of adopting something like Scons or CMAKE (which I'm *not* suggesting) I don't think I've seen a trustworthy way of doing so.
The PCBuild's "readme.txt" states:
"You can find build directories for older versions of Visual Studio and Visual C++ in the PC directory. The legacy build directories are no longer actively maintained and may not work out of the box."
To date, I believe that the attitude toward these older build files has been "unsupported; use at own risk; patches welcome".
abalkin commentedon Jul 21, 2010
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Tim Lesher <report@bugs.python.org> wrote:
..
OK, I guess there is little risk in committing this patch. I'll do it
later this week unless someone who actually knows anything about VC8
beats me to it. :-)
bitdancer commentedon Dec 13, 2010
Bump. This bug has priority high and it sounds like the patch is ready for commit.
abalkin commentedon Dec 13, 2010
there are two pending patches here:
time.diff - a hack that makes _time.c look like a module while it is not.
add_time_to_vc8_build.diff - a patch for VC 8.0 project file.
I don't like time.diff because it fixes the symptom rather than the core problem. I believe the code that is shared between C modules should be segregated into a true module which would expose its C API via capsule mechanism. Others suggested that this is an overkill and that capsule mechanism is not suitable for the stdlib. On the latter argument, I would like to point that unicodedata already uses capsule mechanism to make itself available to Python's builtin str type.
As I mentioned in msg109219, this situation is not unique to time/datetime. The math and cmath modules similarly use linker tricks to share code in _math.c.
Unassigning because I don't have an informed opinion on add_time_to_vc8_build.diff and cannot move the _time.c issue forward until similar problem is solved for _math.c which I used as the basis for _time.c design.
BreamoreBoy commentedon Jun 7, 2014
msg111078 refers to r82035 for Visual Studio 2005 (VC8) builds. Given that http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-dev/131023/ refers to VC14 for 3.5 can we close this as out of date?
bitdancer commentedon Jun 8, 2014
No. The problem has nothing to do with the VS version.
BreamoreBoy commentedon Jun 21, 2014
@Steve/Zach any interest in this one?
loewis commentedon Jun 22, 2014
This issue has been superseded by bpo-14180. __PyTime_DoubleToTimet no longer exists; its successor now lives in pytime.c.