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Node.js Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2023-11-22 #1473
Description
Time
UTC Wed 22-Nov-2023 19:00 (07:00 PM):
| Timezone | Date/Time |
|---|---|
| US / Pacific | Wed 22-Nov-2023 11:00 (11:00 AM) |
| US / Mountain | Wed 22-Nov-2023 12:00 (12:00 PM) |
| US / Central | Wed 22-Nov-2023 13:00 (01:00 PM) |
| US / Eastern | Wed 22-Nov-2023 14:00 (02:00 PM) |
| EU / Western | Wed 22-Nov-2023 19:00 (07:00 PM) |
| EU / Central | Wed 22-Nov-2023 20:00 (08:00 PM) |
| EU / Eastern | Wed 22-Nov-2023 21:00 (09:00 PM) |
| Moscow | Wed 22-Nov-2023 22:00 (10:00 PM) |
| Chennai | Thu 23-Nov-2023 00:30 (12:30 AM) |
| Hangzhou | Thu 23-Nov-2023 03:00 (03:00 AM) |
| Tokyo | Thu 23-Nov-2023 04:00 (04:00 AM) |
| Sydney | Thu 23-Nov-2023 06:00 (06:00 AM) |
Or in your local time:
- https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Node.js+Foundation+Technical%20Steering%20Committee%20(TSC)+Meeting+2023-11-22&iso=20231122T1900
- or https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=07PM+UTC%2C+Nov+22%2C+2023+in+local+time
Links
- Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1er2sOU4UE-f6wWuBuQHD6jwPjVva2sOUDhItxWKH0uE/edit
Agenda
Extracted from tsc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.
nodejs/node
- lib: promote process.binding/_tickCallback to runtime deprecation #50687
- build: use biome as formatter #50672
- [v18.x] Backport most ESM and customization hook changes #50669
- Seeking approval to use the Node.js logo on the WinterCG website #50668
- doc: move deprecated utils to runtime deprecation #50488
- The env var
NODE_V8_COVERAGEintermittently causes the process to hang #49344
nodejs/Release
- proposal for new release schedule / users are not interested in releases that will not become LTS #953
nodejs/TSC
- Update meeting times #1469
- Changes to our nomination process #1467
- Automating Flaky Test Detection #1458
nodejs/admin
- Have a mascot #828
- Create
nodejs/socketrepository for Node.js implementation of Cloudflare's Socket API #826 - Events / Collaborator Summits for 2024 #814
Invited
- Antoine du Hamel @aduh95 (voting member)
- Yagiz Nizipli @anonrig (voting member)
- Anatoli Papirovski @apapirovski (voting member)
- Benjamin Gruenbaum @benjamingr (voting member)
- Ruben Bridgewater @BridgeAR (voting member)
- Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (voting member)
- Geoffrey Booth @GeoffreyBooth (voting member)
- Gireesh Punathil @gireeshpunathil (voting member)
- James Snell @jasnell (voting member)
- Joyee Cheung @joyeecheung (voting member)
- Chengzhong Wu @legendecas (voting member)
- Matteo Collina @mcollina (voting member)
- Michael Dawson @mhdawson (voting member)
- Moshe Atlow @MoLow (voting member)
- Rafael Gonzaga @RafaelGSS (voting member)
- Darshan Sen @RaisinTen (voting member)
- Richard Lau @richardlau (voting member)
- Robert Nagy @ronag (voting member)
- Ruy Adorno @ruyadorno (voting member)
- Michaël Zasso @targos (voting member)
- Tobias Nießen @tniessen (voting member)
- Beth Griggs @BethGriggs (regular member)
- Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (regular member)
- Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (regular member)
- Shelley Vohr @codebytere (regular member)
- Daniel Bevenius @danbev (regular member)
- Danielle Adams @danielleadams (regular member)
- Franziska Hinkelmann @fhinkel (regular member)
- Gabriel Schulhof @gabrielschulhof (regular member)
- Brian White @mscdex (regular member)
- Myles Borins @MylesBorins (regular member)
- Rod Vagg @rvagg (regular member)
- Tiancheng Timothy Gu @TimothyGu (regular member)
- Rich Trott @Trott (regular member)
Observers/Guests
Notes
The agenda comes from issues labelled with tsc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.
Joining the meeting
Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/611357642
Regular password
Public participation
We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.
Invitees
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availability.
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Activity
GeoffreyBooth commentedon Nov 20, 2023
There are far too many items to resolve in an hour. Can we start with filtering out the ones that are just FYIs and prioritize the ones that need decisions/action? Especially ones that have been on a previous agenda. And maybe find ways to reach decisions async.
mhdawson commentedon Nov 20, 2023
If people identify ones which are higher priority, I'll make sure to push those to the top of the agenda.
ronag commentedon Nov 20, 2023
I think nodejs/node#50169 should be on the agenda?
ronag commentedon Nov 20, 2023
In terms of important I would propose:
#1467
nodejs/node#50169
nodejs/Release#953
nodejs/build#3575
I also think we have a few items on the private agenda.
mcollina commentedon Nov 20, 2023
I think we might consider start scheduling ad-hoc meetings for some things, because I don't see how we can resolve most of those timely otherwise.
GeoffreyBooth commentedon Nov 21, 2023
The following I think can be removed from the agenda:
The following I think should get their own ad hoc meetings with those who are interested, and therefore also be removed from the agenda:
NODE_V8_COVERAGEintermittently causes the process to hang node#49344 doesn’t have any obvious questions for the TSC to resolve; it’s just a bug that should get fixed. Those knowledgeable about the issue should schedule a time to discuss.nodejs/socketrepository for Node.js implementation of Cloudflare's Socket API admin#826 feels like it should be discussed in a meeting with those familiar with the topic.The following I think should just be acted upon:
So what’s left?
mhdawson commentedon Nov 21, 2023
@GeoffreyBooth thanks for the summary/overview, I pulled in your suggestions into the doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1er2sOU4UE-f6wWuBuQHD6jwPjVva2sOUDhItxWKH0uE/edit to capture minutes and I think we can strart with deps,doc,lib,src,test: add experimental web storage node#50169 and then if we have time before private session (45 mins) we can quickly go through th others.
mhdawson commentedon Nov 22, 2023
PR for minutes - #1475