@@ -3,8 +3,7 @@ No need to specify renderer for get_tightbbox and get_window_extent
 
 The ``get_tightbbox`` and `~.Artist.get_window_extent` methods
 no longer require the *renderer* kwarg, saving users from having to
-querry it from ``fig.canvas.get_renderer``.  Currently, all Artists are
-aware of their parent figure (``artist.figure``), and if the *renderer*
+querry it from ``fig.canvas.get_renderer``.  If the *renderer*
 kwarg is not supplied these methods first check if there is a cached renderer
 from a previous draw and use that.  If there is no cahched renderer, then
 the methods will use ``fig.canvas.get_renderer()`` as a fallback.
@@ -11,6 +11,40 @@
 layout.  Axes manually placed via ``figure.add_axes()`` will not.
 
 See Tutorial: :doc:`/tutorials/intermediate/constrainedlayout_guide`
+
+General idea:
+-------------
+
+First, a figure has a gridspec that divides the figure into nrows and ncols,
+with heights and widths set by ``height_ratios`` and ``width_ratios``,
+often just set to 1 for an equal grid.
+
+Subplotspecs that are derived from this gridspec can contain either a
+``SubPanel``, a ``GridSpecFromSubplotSpec``, or an ``Axes``.  The ``SubPanel``
+and ``GridSpecFromSubplotSpec`` are dealt with recursively and each contain an
+analogous layout.
+
+Each ``GridSpec`` has a ``_layoutgrid`` attached to it.  The ``_layoutgrid``
+has the same logical layout as the ``GridSpec``.   Each row of the grid spec
+has a top and bottom "margin" and each column has a left and right "margin".
+The "inner" height of each row is constrained to be the same (or as modified
+by ``height_ratio``), and the "inner" width of each column is
+constrained to be the same (as modified by ``width_ratio``), where "inner"
+is the width or height of each column/row minus the size of the margins.
+
+Then the size of the margins for each row and column are determined as the
+max width of the decorators on each axes that has decorators in that margin.
+For instance, a normal axes would have a left margin that includes the
+left ticklabels, and the ylabel if it exists.  The right margin may include a
+colorbar, the bottom margin the xaxis decorations, and the top margin the
+title.
+
+With these constraints, the solver then finds appropriate bounds for the
+columns and rows.  It's possible that the margins take up the whole figure,
+in which case the algorithm is not applied and a warning is raised.
+
+See the tutorial doc:`/tutorials/intermediate/constrainedlayout_guide`
+for more discussion of the algorithm with examples.
 """
 
 import logging
@@ -22,40 +56,6 @@
 import matplotlib._layoutgrid as mlayoutgrid
 
 
-# General idea:
-# -------------
-#
-# First, a figure has a gridspec that divides the figure into nrows and ncols,
-# with heights and widths set by ``height_ratios`` and ``width_ratios``,
-# often just set to 1 for an equal grid.
-#
-# Subplotspecs that are derived from this gridspec can contain either a
-# ``SubPanel``, a ``GridSpecFromSubplotSpec``, or an ``Axes``.  The
-# ``SubPanel`` and ``GridSpecFromSubplotSpec`` are dealt with recursively and
-# each contain an analogous layout.
-#
-# Each ``GridSpec`` has a ``_layoutgrid`` attached to it.  The ``_layoutgrid``
-# has the same logical layout as the ``GridSpec``.   Each row of the grid spec
-# has a top and bottom "margin" and each column has a left and right "margin".
-# The "inner" height of each row is constrained to be the same (or as modified
-# by ``height_ratio``), and the "inner" width of each column is
-# constrained to be the same (as modified by ``width_ratio``), where "inner"
-# is the width or height of each column/row minus the size of the margins.
-#
-# Then the size of the margins for each row and column are determined as the
-# max width of the decorators on each axes that has decorators in that margin.
-# For instance, a normal axes would have a left margin that includes the
-# left ticklabels, and the ylabel if it exists.  The right margin may include a
-# colorbar, the bottom margin the xaxis decorations, and the top margin the
-# title.
-#
-# With these constraints, the solver then finds appropriate bounds for the
-# columns and rows.  It's possible that the margins take up the whole figure,
-# in which case the algorithm is not applied and a warning is raised.
-#
-# See the tutorial doc:`/tutorials/intermediate/constrainedlayout_guide`
-# for more discussion of the algorithm with examples.
-
 _log = logging.getLogger(__name__)
 
 
@@ -71,6 +71,8 @@ def do_constrained_layout(fig, h_pad, w_pad,
     fig : Figure
         ``Figure`` instance to do the layout in.
 
+    renderer : Renderer
+        Renderer to use.
 
     h_pad, w_pad : float
       Padding around the axes elements in figure-normalized units.
@@ -91,6 +93,7 @@ def do_constrained_layout(fig, h_pad, w_pad,
     layoutgrid : private debugging structure
     """
 
+    renderer = fig._get_renderer()
     # make layoutgrid tree...
     layoutgrids = make_layoutgrids(fig, None, rect=rect)
     if not layoutgrids['hasgrids']:
@@ -107,9 +110,9 @@ def do_constrained_layout(fig, h_pad, w_pad,
 
         # make margins for all the axes and subfigures in the
         # figure.  Add margins for colorbars...
-        make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, h_pad=h_pad,
+        make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, renderer, h_pad=h_pad,
                             w_pad=w_pad, hspace=hspace, wspace=wspace)
-        make_margin_suptitles(layoutgrids, fig, h_pad=h_pad,
+        make_margin_suptitles(layoutgrids, fig, renderer, h_pad=h_pad,
                               w_pad=w_pad)
 
         # if a layout is such that a columns (or rows) margin has no
@@ -121,7 +124,7 @@ def do_constrained_layout(fig, h_pad, w_pad,
         layoutgrids[fig].update_variables()
 
         if check_no_collapsed_axes(layoutgrids, fig):
-            reposition_axes(layoutgrids, fig, h_pad=h_pad,
+            reposition_axes(layoutgrids, fig, renderer, h_pad=h_pad,
                             w_pad=w_pad, hspace=hspace, wspace=wspace)
         else:
             _api.warn_external('constrained_layout not applied because '
@@ -282,7 +285,7 @@ def get_margin_from_padding(obj, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0,
     return margin
 
 
-def make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0,
+def make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, renderer, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0,
                         hspace=0, wspace=0):
     """
     For each axes, make a margin between the *pos* layoutbox and the
@@ -293,7 +296,7 @@ def make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0,
     """
     for sfig in fig.subfigs:  # recursively make child panel margins
         ss = sfig._subplotspec
-        make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, sfig,
+        make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, sfig, renderer,
                             w_pad=w_pad, h_pad=h_pad,
                             hspace=hspace, wspace=wspace)
 
@@ -313,7 +316,7 @@ def make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0,
 
         margin = get_margin_from_padding(ax, w_pad=w_pad, h_pad=h_pad,
                                          hspace=hspace, wspace=wspace)
-        pos, bbox = get_pos_and_bbox(ax)
+        pos, bbox = get_pos_and_bbox(ax, renderer)
         # the margin is the distance between the bounding box of the axes
         # and its position (plus the padding from above)
         margin['left'] += pos.x0 - bbox.x0
@@ -330,7 +333,7 @@ def make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0,
             # colorbars can be child of more than one subplot spec:
             cbp_rspan, cbp_cspan = get_cb_parent_spans(cbax)
             loc = cbax._colorbar_info['location']
-            cbpos, cbbbox = get_pos_and_bbox(cbax)
+            cbpos, cbbbox = get_pos_and_bbox(cbax, renderer)
             if loc == 'right':
                 if cbp_cspan.stop == ss.colspan.stop:
                     # only increase if the colorbar is on the right edge
@@ -366,7 +369,7 @@ def make_layout_margins(layoutgrids, fig, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0,
         layoutgrids[gs].edit_outer_margin_mins(margin, ss)
 
 
-def make_margin_suptitles(layoutgrids, fig, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0):
+def make_margin_suptitles(layoutgrids, fig, renderer, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0):
     # Figure out how large the suptitle is and make the
     # top level figure margin larger.
 
@@ -379,29 +382,29 @@ def make_margin_suptitles(layoutgrids, fig, *, w_pad=0, h_pad=0):
     w_pad_local = padbox.width
 
     for sfig in fig.subfigs:
-        make_margin_suptitles(layoutgrids, sfig,
+        make_margin_suptitles(layoutgrids, sfig, renderer,
                               w_pad=w_pad, h_pad=h_pad)
 
     if fig._suptitle is not None and fig._suptitle.get_in_layout():
         p = fig._suptitle.get_position()
         if getattr(fig._suptitle, '_autopos', False):
             fig._suptitle.set_position((p[0], 1 - h_pad_local))
-            bbox = inv_trans_fig(fig._suptitle.get_tightbbox())
+            bbox = inv_trans_fig(fig._suptitle.get_tightbbox(renderer))
             layoutgrids[fig].edit_margin_min('top', bbox.height + 2 * h_pad)
 
     if fig._supxlabel is not None and fig._supxlabel.get_in_layout():
         p = fig._supxlabel.get_position()
         if getattr(fig._supxlabel, '_autopos', False):
             fig._supxlabel.set_position((p[0], h_pad_local))
-            bbox = inv_trans_fig(fig._supxlabel.get_tightbbox())
+            bbox = inv_trans_fig(fig._supxlabel.get_tightbbox(renderer))
             layoutgrids[fig].edit_margin_min('bottom',
                                              bbox.height + 2 * h_pad)
 
     if fig._supylabel is not None and fig._supylabel.get_in_layout():
         p = fig._supylabel.get_position()
         if getattr(fig._supylabel, '_autopos', False):
             fig._supylabel.set_position((w_pad_local, p[1]))
-            bbox = inv_trans_fig(fig._supylabel.get_tightbbox())
+            bbox = inv_trans_fig(fig._supylabel.get_tightbbox(renderer))
             layoutgrids[fig].edit_margin_min('left', bbox.width + 2 * w_pad)
 
 
@@ -522,14 +525,14 @@ def get_cb_parent_spans(cbax):
     return rowspan, colspan
 
 
-def get_pos_and_bbox(ax):
+def get_pos_and_bbox(ax, renderer):
     """
     Get the position and the bbox for the axes.
 
     Parameters
     ----------
     ax
-
+    renderer
 
     Returns
     -------
@@ -542,15 +545,15 @@ def get_pos_and_bbox(ax):
     pos = ax.get_position(original=True)
     # pos is in panel co-ords, but we need in figure for the layout
     pos = pos.transformed(fig.transSubfigure - fig.transFigure)
-    tightbbox = martist._get_tightbbox_for_layout_only(ax)
+    tightbbox = martist._get_tightbbox_for_layout_only(ax, renderer)
     if tightbbox is None:
         bbox = pos
     else:
         bbox = tightbbox.transformed(fig.transFigure.inverted())
     return pos, bbox
 
 
-def reposition_axes(layoutgrids, fig, *,
+def reposition_axes(layoutgrids, fig, renderer, *,
                     w_pad=0, h_pad=0, hspace=0, wspace=0):
     """
     Reposition all the axes based on the new inner bounding box.
@@ -560,7 +563,7 @@ def reposition_axes(layoutgrids, fig, *,
         bbox = layoutgrids[sfig].get_outer_bbox()
         sfig._redo_transform_rel_fig(
             bbox=bbox.transformed(trans_fig_to_subfig))
-        reposition_axes(layoutgrids, sfig,
+        reposition_axes(layoutgrids, sfig, renderer,
                         w_pad=w_pad, h_pad=h_pad,
                         wspace=wspace, hspace=hspace)
 
@@ -588,11 +591,11 @@ def reposition_axes(layoutgrids, fig, *,
         offset = {'left': 0, 'right': 0, 'bottom': 0, 'top': 0}
         for nn, cbax in enumerate(ax._colorbars[::-1]):
             if ax == cbax._colorbar_info['parents'][0]:
-                reposition_colorbar(layoutgrids, cbax,
+                reposition_colorbar(layoutgrids, cbax, renderer,
                                     offset=offset)
 
 
-def reposition_colorbar(layoutgrids, cbax, *, offset=None):
+def reposition_colorbar(layoutgrids, cbax, renderer, *, offset=None):
     """
     Place the colorbar in its new place.
 
@@ -601,6 +604,7 @@ def reposition_colorbar(layoutgrids, cbax, *, offset=None):
     cbax : Axes
         Axes for the colorbar
 
+    renderer :
     w_pad, h_pad : float
         width and height padding (in fraction of figure)
     hspace, wspace : float
@@ -627,7 +631,7 @@ def reposition_colorbar(layoutgrids, cbax, *, offset=None):
     aspect = cbax._colorbar_info['aspect']
     shrink = cbax._colorbar_info['shrink']
 
-    cbpos, cbbbox = get_pos_and_bbox(cbax)
+    cbpos, cbbbox = get_pos_and_bbox(cbax, renderer)
 
     # Colorbar gets put at extreme edge of outer bbox of the subplotspec
     # It needs to be moved in by: 1) a pad 2) its "margin" 3) by
 
@@ -232,7 +232,7 @@ def get_subplotspec_list(axes_list, grid_spec=None):
     return subplotspec_list
 
 
-def get_tight_layout_figure(fig, axes_list, subplotspec_list, renderer=None,
+def get_tight_layout_figure(fig, axes_list, subplotspec_list, renderer,
                             pad=1.08, h_pad=None, w_pad=None, rect=None):
     """
     Return subplot parameters for tight-layouted-figure with specified padding.
 
@@ -276,23 +276,25 @@ def get_label_coords(self, distances, XX, YY, ysize, lw):
     def _get_nth_label_width(self, nth):
         """Return the width of the *nth* label, in pixels."""
         fig = self.axes.figure
+        renderer = fig._get_renderer()
         return (
             text.Text(0, 0,
                       self.get_text(self.labelLevelList[nth], self.labelFmt),
                       figure=fig,
                       size=self.labelFontSizeList[nth],
                       fontproperties=self.labelFontProps)
-            .get_window_extent().width)
+            .get_window_extent(renderer).width)
 
     @_api.deprecated("3.5")
     def get_label_width(self, lev, fmt, fsize):
         """Return the width of the label in points."""
         if not isinstance(lev, str):
             lev = self.get_text(lev, fmt)
         fig = self.axes.figure
+        renderer = fig._get_renderer()
         width = (text.Text(0, 0, lev, figure=fig,
                            size=fsize, fontproperties=self.labelFontProps)
-                 .get_window_extent().width)
+                 .get_window_extent(renderer).width)
         width *= 72 / fig.dpi
         return width