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Goal in U20 World Cup 2007

Although he didn't play many minutes in the U20 World Cup 2007, I think it's worth mentioning that he came in as a substitute and scored a goal in the opening game against Gambia. The line about his shirt number seems less relevant. http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/u20worldcup/canada2007/matches/round=249401/match=58859/index.html

Gender remarks

Latest comment: 1 year ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Some criticism of the feminist censorphip of his banal opinions of genders lack here. Men allowed to free speech are labelled as "sexist" in Mexico? His ridiculous self-criticism according to a communist-style template is another thing that no longer ennobles him.We should add something about cowards and hypcrite reactions of his club and Puma too. 5.145.104.252 (talk) 07:09, 24 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Sheinbaum went mad: she targeted Chicharito for questioning the feminist narrative 5.145.104.252 (talk) 07:39, 24 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Please read WP:LLMTALK. Gurkubondinn (talk) 11:34, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 6 October 2026

Latest comment: 17 days ago18 comments8 people in discussion

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The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 12:39, 18 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Javier Hernández → ChicharitoChicharito – "Chicharito" missing from the title is a miss given how widely reported his nickname is by reliable sources. Open for "Chicharito" as standalone too. Google searches here. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 02:16, 6 October 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 14:37, 13 October 2026 (UTC) Reply

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Oppose per WP:NICKNAME. Chicharito redirects here and could be a valid title; no opinion on whether it is more common than "Javier Hernández". 162 etc. (talk) 16:34, 6 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
@162 etc.: Should I submit a proposal for "Chicharito" instead? The point here is to start a discussion for including "Chicharito" instead of "Javier Hernandez" which is not how he is commonly known. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 23:16, 6 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 18:45, 6 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oppose per 162, really nonsensical suggestion. Giant Snowman 18:47, 6 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Is it really "nonsensical"? Chichcarito is WP:COMMONNAME. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 23:11, 6 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oppose as above, but I'm neutral to supportive of moving to Chicharito. That could especially be helpful if someday he's no longer WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Javier Hernández. --BDD (talk) 20:37, 6 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
"Chicharito" as standalone would be great. I'm open to that too. Surprised you're the only one who has mentioned that. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 23:14, 6 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Comment Per OP and discussion above, proposed title is now Chicharito. 162 etc. (talk) 16:48, 7 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Courtesy ping to GiantSnowman and BDD if they have a take now that the discussion has changed to "Chicharito" as standalone. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 03:52, 8 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think I'll officially say weak support. I don't think Chicharito is in the same bucket as, say, Nani or Pelé, where the nickname is wildly more well known. Inertia is a factor too—if we've kept this title through the peak of his career, why change now? But per my comments in the collapsed section, "Chicharito" is more likely to be recognizable for him into the future, even if he's no longer primary topic for his real name. --BDD (talk) 14:47, 8 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oppose - not the COMMONNAME. No different to CR7 or other nicknames for popular footballers. Giant Snowman 08:49, 9 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's a bad example. If you Google "Chicharito", that nickname is shown even in news article titles and in prose. If you Google "CR7, most don't include it in the title and it's only mentioned in prose once or very few times. "Chicharito" is more widespread. I recommend you take a second look. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 14:12, 9 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Oppose - he names himself as Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez on his verified social media accounts and on YouTube the same as the article title. In the context of other articles, we don't have article content on Dibu Martínez or Shaq as two examples on nicknames for other sportspeople. Iggy Swan (Contribs) 21:45, 9 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

We don't mirror social media handles. We follow WP:COMMONNAME as best as we can. I originally proposed Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez but that was shut down. Now I'm proposing this as standalone. Excluding "Chicharito" is a miss considering the majority of the sources out there calls them that, even in their titles. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 04:45, 10 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Oppose the BBC is good for establishing trends in English usage, and also avoids the use of nicknames that tabloids may go for. These are BBC headlines: Ex-Man Utd striker Hernandez fined for sexism, Ex-Man Utd striker Hernandez apologises for sexism, The Big Interview - Javier Hernandez on Manchester, Ronaldo and mushy peas, Javier Hernandez - first name on the team sheet?, The vitamin tycoon who boosted Javier Hernandez's career, Javier Hernandez: LA Galaxy sign ex-Manchester United and West Ham striker. Bear in mind that the purpose of a headline is to establish who the story is talking about. The article currently has 23 sources where 'Chicharito' is between quotation marks - there would never be a headline with 'Pelé' Nascimento or 'Kaká' Leite, so Hernández is not one of them. He's in the same group as 'Cholo' Simeone and 'El Niño' Torres. Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:32, 15 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oppose as not being COMMONNAME. Khalitate (talk) 09:22, 18 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

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